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From: Ken Garlington <Kennie.E.Garlington@lmco.com>
Subject: Re: Why Ada is not the Commercial Lang of Choice
Date: 1997/06/24
Date: 1997-06-24T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <33B02457.2B64@lmco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.866898018@merv


Robert Dewar wrote:
> 
> Keith said
> 
> <<GNAT follows this advice (the full type is modular, but that doesn't
> make literals available).  ObjectAda makes System.Address an access
> type.
> >>
> 
> That follows an old custom in Alsys compilers, where Address has always
> been an access type. What I do not like about this choice is that it means
> that the compiler always wants to initialize address values to the null
> pointer. This default initialization seems appropriate for access types,
> but I usually find it to be unwelcome junk overhead for addresses.
> 
> The modular representation seems more natural for modern machines.
> Historically one of the reasons for the Alsys choice was that the modular
> choice is NOT a good choice for the old junk segmented 286 architecture,
> and indeed if we still had to fight that machine, I would probably follow
> the access type decision, since it is indeed more portable in this sense.
> 
> (yes, yes, I know, the 32-bit x86 architecture still has segmentation, for
> gruesome details, see my book on Microprocessors - when Hennessey reviewed
> this section of the book, he wrote a large note asking "does anyone use
> this nonsense?" -- the answer to his question is pretty much no :-)

Of course, some of us still use 16-bit machines with segmentation (e.g.
MIL-STD-1750), but since by and large you can't get Ada 95 on such
machines,
it doesn't cause problems for Ada vendors.

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  reply	other threads:[~1997-06-24  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-06-18  0:00 Why Ada is not the Commercial Lang of Choice Robert I. Eachus
1997-06-18  0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1997-06-19  0:00   ` Steve Jones - JON
1997-06-19  0:00     ` Peter Hermann
1997-06-19  0:00     ` Anonymous
1997-07-17  0:00     ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-06-19  0:00   ` Robert A Duff
1997-06-21  0:00     ` Paul Van Bellinghen
1997-06-20  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-23  0:00         ` John G. Volan
1997-07-03  0:00           ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-03  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-06  0:00               ` Yasmiin S. Davis
1997-07-06  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-07  0:00               ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-04  0:00             ` Paul Van Bellinghen
1997-07-13  0:00               ` Ken Mays
1997-07-13  0:00                 ` Robert Munck
1997-07-14  0:00                   ` Ken Mays
1997-06-20  0:00   ` Don Harrison
1997-06-20  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-06-20  0:00       ` Nick Leaton
1997-06-23  0:00       ` Don Harrison
1997-06-24  0:00         ` Bertrand Meyer
1997-06-24  0:00           ` Nick Leaton
1997-07-22  0:00           ` Dr. Vladimir Il'ich Fomin
1997-06-20  0:00     ` Donovan Baarda
1997-06-20  0:00     ` Roy Grimm
1997-06-23  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-24  0:00       ` Don Harrison
1997-06-24  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-23  0:00     ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-06-20  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-20  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-21  0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1997-06-21  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-24  0:00     ` Ken Garlington [this message]
1997-06-24  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-28  0:00   ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-06-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1997-06-13  0:00 Paul Van Bellinghen
1997-06-17  0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1997-06-17  0:00   ` Robert Munck
1997-06-18  0:00   ` Ken Garlington
1997-06-19  0:00     ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-06-19  0:00       ` Ken Garlington
1997-06-17  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-20  0:00   ` nma123
1997-06-24  0:00     ` Adam Beneschan
1997-06-18  0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1997-06-18  0:00   ` Peter Hermann
1997-06-20  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-25  0:00     ` Van Snyder
1997-06-26  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-30  0:00         ` Ralph Paul
1997-07-02  0:00           ` Joerg Rodemann
1997-07-02  0:00             ` Joerg Rodemann
1997-07-02  0:00             ` Ralph Paul
1997-06-19  0:00 ` Steve Doiel
1997-06-19  0:00   ` Anonymous
1997-07-22  0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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