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From: Stephen Leake <Stephen.Leake@gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: dynamic memory allocation
Date: 1997/06/17
Date: 1997-06-17T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <33A6A38D.658B@gsfc.nasa.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.866539898@merv


Robert Dewar wrote:
> 
> Stephen says
> 
> <<They are proposing a message passing scheme where sending tasks allocate
> buffers for each message from a heap, and receiving tasks deallocate. I
> have suggested that the heap could become fragmented (the buffers are
> NOT all the same size). They say "we'll just test it thoroughly".>>
> 
> In this case, thorough testing would have to mean that they will test all
> conceivable inputs and sequences of inputs. If they can do that, fine, but
> note that this is often difficult :-)

That is precisely my point; I do not believe they can adequately test
this system.

> In particular, for example, Intel could not or at least did not thoroughly
> test the divide on the Pentium (if you need an example in discussing this).

Good example.

> Obviously we have to assume this is non-critical software where it does
> not matter if it sometimes fails. We deduce that from the fact that someone
> thinks that testing is an adequate indicator of correctness. Often for
> non-critical software this is the case, and indeed such software does often
> use dynamic allocation.

Unfortunately, this is the "Safe" mode of a science satellite; it is
supposed to work no matter what. It is a VERY critical system! 

> For critical software however, where reliability and correctness are
> required, it is out of the question to use dynamic allocation unless
> you can prove that storage error cannot occur.

I whole-heartedly agree, but I don't carry enough weight around here to
change minds. And unfortunately, neither do newsgroup discussions.

So I repeat my query; can anyone provide references to authoritative
texts that discuss this issue? 
-- 
- Stephe




  parent reply	other threads:[~1997-06-17  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-06-16  0:00 dynamic memory allocation Stephen Leake
1997-06-16  0:00 ` Joel Seidman
1997-06-16  0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1997-06-17  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-17  0:00   ` Spam Hater
1997-06-17  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-17  0:00   ` Stephen Leake [this message]
1997-06-17  0:00     ` Brian Rogoff
1997-06-17  0:00     ` Michael F Brenner
1997-06-17  0:00 ` Glen Cornell
1997-06-17  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-06-18  0:00   ` Mats.Weber
1997-06-18  0:00     ` Jon S Anthony
1997-06-18  0:00 ` David Wheeler
1997-06-18  0:00 ` David Wheeler
1997-06-18  0:00   ` Stephen Leake
1997-06-19  0:00     ` Arthur Schwarz
1997-06-20  0:00     ` David Wheeler
1997-06-19  0:00   ` JP Thornley
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1997-06-19  0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-93
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