Re: Off topic response to an off topic message--> was:Re: Software Engineering and Dreamers

["H. Blakely Williford" <blakew@fuller.com>]

Jon S Anthony wrote:
> 
> In article <5n45ou$cio@squire.cen.brad.ac.uk> cgrussel@bradford.ac.uk (Vibrating Bum-Faced Goats) writes:
> 
> > What I'm trying to say here is that it could be argued (by me amongst
> > others) that the relationships between objects and phenomena exist
> > anyway. Mathematics is the ongoing creation of a extraordinarily rich and
> > diverse language which enables us to express those relationships. A
> > mathematician is creating a tool for scientists and engineers alike. It
> > may require a mathematician to make use of that tool at times but, at
> > it's very core, tool creation is what I believe to be the essence of maths.

So is mathematicis like an adjective?
 
> Spoken like an engineer.  I don't think many scientists would actually
> say this sort of thing.
> 
> Go read G.H.Hardy's _A Mathematician's Apology_.  Considering that (in
> my experience anyway), the (vast) majority of mathematicians hold
> basically the views expressed there, you will immediately see what a
> "hornet's nest" you have just kicked.
> 
> > I don't see it as being different from any other language in that it
> 
> You're still kicking...
> 

is there such thing as mathematical poetry?  That is poetry not made
up as words, but of pure mathematical thought?  Could 1 + 1 = 2 be
a poem, or is it just a statement?

Men never do evil so completely and
cheerfully  as when they do it from
religious conviction.     -- Pascal