From: Jan Galkowski <jan@digicomp.com>
Subject: Re: ada and robots
Date: 1997/06/04
Date: 1997-06-04T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3395A015.41C67EA6@digicomp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 01bc6dfe$9f580d80$21fa82c1@xhv46.dial.pipex.com
Nick Roberts wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> I think I'd go further and suggest that a higher level language than Ada
> might be more suitable to your purpose (depending on what you are really
> trying to do). Are you familiar with Prolog or Lisp? There are many
> different robotics-specific languages, also. You may even find that using a
> programming language of any kind is not what you require (perhaps an
> adaptive learning system implemented at hardware level would work better).
I agree with Nick. Although lowest level control of motors
and sensors might well be done with C++, as well as calculations
which just have to be fast, things like motion planning, force
feedback, assembly planning, interpretation of touch fields are
all things that cry for higher order implementation.
A characteristic of assembly control is that one needs to consider
that every action one tries may fail, and plan a backup route for
it. Thus, if this were done in Ada, you'd put a failure handler
with a different body about each and every motion statement.
This is verbose.
I've never used it for robot programming, even in a pretending
way, but I've often thought Icon, with its builtin treatment of
failures, might be a good thing to use.
> What are you trying to achieve, ultimately?
Yes, definitely: "Robot programming" isn't a monolithic application.
There are the hobbyists robots, there are the relatively
unintelligent repetition-based robots for which no programming
language is suitable (programmed by motion macros), and then
there are sophisticated systems which try mechanical assemblies.
>
[snip]
--
Jan Theodore Galkowski,
developer, statistician,
Digicomp Research Corporation,
Ithaca, NY 14850-5720
jan@digicomp.com
(also jtgalkowski@worldnet.att.net)
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1997-05-28 0:00 ada and robots John Bohn
1997-05-29 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1997-05-29 0:00 ` Michael F Brenner
1997-05-30 0:00 ` John Cook
1997-05-30 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1997-06-01 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1997-06-02 0:00 ` John G. Volan
[not found] ` <5mv984$7kn@news.emi.com>
1997-06-03 0:00 ` Martin A. Stembel
1997-06-03 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-06-04 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-06-05 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-06-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-07-03 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
[not found] ` <9706052229.AA29554@jaguar.nmc.ed.ray.com>
1997-06-06 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-06-07 0:00 ` RC
1997-06-09 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-06-04 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1997-06-05 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-06-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-16 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1997-06-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-06-28 0:00 ` Mike Stark
1997-07-03 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-06-05 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-06-05 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-06-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-10 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-06-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-12 0:00 ` George Haddad
1997-06-16 0:00 ` Matthew S. Whiting
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-06-18 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1997-07-17 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-06-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-20 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1997-06-18 0:00 ` Steve O'Neill
1997-06-19 0:00 ` Anonymous
1997-06-19 0:00 ` Kenneth W. Sodemann
1997-06-20 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1997-06-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Matthew S. Whiting
1997-06-18 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-06-22 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-06-18 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1997-06-18 0:00 ` Matthew S. Whiting
1997-06-18 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-06-20 0:00 ` jim granville
1997-06-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-24 0:00 ` Re(dux): Ada for small machines (was Re: ada and robots) Ken Garlington
1997-06-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-29 0:00 ` ada and robots Matthew Heaney
1997-07-03 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-04 0:00 ` RC
1997-06-04 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-06-04 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-06-05 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-06-02 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1997-06-04 0:00 ` Jan Galkowski [this message]
1997-06-05 0:00 ` Albert K. Lee
1997-06-06 0:00 ` dana
1997-06-07 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-06-10 0:00 ` dana
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1997-06-09 0:00 ` Jerry Petrey
1997-06-10 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1997-06-10 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-06-11 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1997-06-11 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-06-11 0:00 ` Spam Hater
1997-06-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-11 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1997-06-13 0:00 ` Erik Magnuson
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-06-18 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-06-19 0:00 ` Jonathan Guthrie
1997-06-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-05 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1997-06-09 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1997-06-12 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1997-06-16 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-06-18 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-06-18 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-06-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-23 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1997-07-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-23 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-06-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-25 0:00 ` Jonathan Guthrie
1997-06-25 0:00 ` Will Rose
1997-06-21 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1997-06-16 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1997-06-19 0:00 Jon S Anthony
1997-06-19 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-06-20 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-06-22 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-06-25 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-06-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-24 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-06-20 0:00 Ada " Huy Vo
1997-06-23 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-06-24 0:00 Huy Vo
1997-06-25 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-06-25 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1997-06-25 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1997-06-25 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1997-06-26 0:00 Huy Vo
1997-06-27 0:00 ` nma123
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
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1997-06-29 0:00 ` John Howard
1997-06-30 0:00 Huy Vo
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1997-07-11 0:00 ` Will Rose
1997-07-02 0:00 ` Mattias Sj�sv�rd
1997-07-01 0:00 Huy Vo
1997-07-02 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-07-02 0:00 Huy Vo
1997-07-04 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
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