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From: clines@delete_this.airmail.net (Kevin Cline)
Subject: Re: STUDENTS GO AWAY!!!!!!!??????
Date: 1997/04/25
Date: 1997-04-25T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <336a230b.6437100@news.airmail.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.861851855@merv


dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) wrote:

> A very common phenomenon, that was around long before the
>net and newsgroups, since the same thing happens when you ask e.g.
>teaching assistants, is that students manage to turn in homework assignments
>that work without ever having learned the foggiest idea about how programs
>work. They do this by writing some gross approximation, and then asking
>lots of questions. People give them helpful hints ("you should initialize
>this variable, you should do the multiplicatoin first ... etc") and they
>manage to get the program working by assembling this advice.

Shortly after I left CMU in 1981 they started requiring that all engineering
and science majors pass a practical final exam in programming.  They were
put in front of a terminal, given a specification, and allowed a few hours to
produce a working program.  I don't know if that practice continues today. 






  reply	other threads:[~1997-04-25  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-04-21  0:00 STUDENTS GO AWAY!!!!!!!?????? mrbunny
1997-04-21  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-22  0:00   ` mrbunny
1997-04-23  0:00   ` Matthew Givens
1997-04-23  0:00     ` Samuel A. Mize
1997-04-25  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-26  0:00         ` Michael Feldman
1997-04-23  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-25  0:00       ` Kevin Cline [this message]
1997-04-25  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-28  0:00       ` Matthew Givens
1997-04-28  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-26  0:00   ` Daniel P Hudson
1997-04-26  0:00     ` mrbunny
1997-04-27  0:00       ` Dale Stanbrough
1997-04-30  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-26  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-27  0:00       ` Daniel P Hudson
1997-04-28  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-30  0:00           ` Daniel P Hudson
1997-04-30  0:00             ` John M. Mills
1997-05-01  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-03  0:00               ` Daniel P Hudson
1997-05-04  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-30  0:00           ` Daniel P Hudson
1997-04-28  0:00         ` John M. Mills
1997-04-30  0:00           ` Daniel P Hudson
1997-04-29  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-04-21  0:00 ` Students, Welcome!, was " Tom Moran
1997-04-23  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-26  0:00     ` Michael Feldman
1997-04-26  0:00   ` Michael Feldman
1997-04-22  0:00 ` Jerry Petrey
1997-04-22  0:00 ` John M. Mills
1997-04-25  0:00   ` Kevin Cline
1997-04-26  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-25  0:00   ` mrbunny
     [not found]     ` <01bc52a3$c91b7ce0$28f982c1@xhv46.dial.pipex.com>
1997-04-26  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-28  0:00         ` mrbunny
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