Re: Any research putting c above ada?

[Alan Brain <aebrain@dynamite.com.au>]

Matthew Givens wrote:
> 
> Alan Brain <aebrain@dynamite.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >
> >It seems to me that all the arguments for C over Ada can be duplicated
> >in
> >any good Macro Assembler over C.
> >
> >Thus LDM =A,h10 is close to the machine level, terse, flexible (in
> >assembler you can multiply floats by booleans! ) is as efficient as it
> >can be, and by using the proper tools, can be made portable and safe.
> >Obviously C is for wimps who can't hack Assembler, just as Ada is for
> >wimps who can't hack C. Any language can be used. It's all a matter of
> >opinion and what you're used to.  Real programmers would of course
> write
> >03707 instead of that LDM guff (it's terser). Heck, the meaning of
> >0011010010000101 is OBVIOUS to the meanest intelligence, and it tells
> >you exactly which parts of the CPU are being used, and uses a reduced
> >character set which an expert can use most efficiently!
> >
> 
> Ahhhh, this is the tactic my wife uses sometimes.  Take what I say,
> amplify it until you've reached ridiculousness, then claim that's what I
> meant.
> 
> You did it well.  Not real well, but good enough.

Oops. Actually, not my intention. Though looking at my post, your
conclusion seems inescapable. Mea Culpa.
Please look at the initial sentence... I would greatly appreciate your
elucidation of some technical arguments about the merits of C as opposed
to Ada which cannot also be adduced for a Macro Assembler vs C.
Really. 

> However, I don't believe I ever said anything about Ada being for wimps
> who can't hack C.  You said that, not I.  I didn't even imply that.

Fair enough, I unreservedly apologise for the imputation, which was the
result of my own carelessness. I guess I wasn't really replying to your
post so much as many of the posts expressing _similar_ opinions. Not
yours neccessarily ( and in this case, not yours at all, right?)
 
> But you'll never believe that, will you.  So, continue to battle truth
> with ridicule whenever possible.  It works, sometimes, so why not?

Because winning is not the issue. I'm perfectly willing to believe I'm
wrong - I have been many times in the past - but on this issue I have a
large amount of evidence, as well as personal experience, to show that
Language DOES matter (as does IPSE, possibly even more so). And I'm
looking for more evidence, for or against. And trying (unsuccessfully it
seems) to be rational about it. So... please forgive my poor expression,
and give a serious answer to what was meant to be a serious question,
not some asinine dielectical game ploy.

Over 2 U.
 
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