From: Farshad Nayeri <farshad@cmass.com>
Subject: Re: Why one school changed from Pascal to C++
Date: 1997/05/05
Date: 1997-05-05T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <336E207A.52BFA1D7@cmass.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5kkr0p$29m@qnx.com
Rennie Allen wrote:
>
> Farshad Nayeri (farshad@cmass.com) wrote:
>
> > Kevin Cline wrote:
> > >
> > > Symbols are used in mathematics because they are easier to read than text.
> > > They are used in computer programs for the same reason.
>
> > Well, I'd suggest that the goals of mathematics and computer science
> > are different, so we may not want to apply the same principles:
>
> I agree.
>
> > In introductory mathematics, we learn to *use* abstractions.
> > (Only advanced mathematicians build abstractions of their own for others
> > to use.)
>
> I agree with this statement.
>
> > In introductory computer science, we learn to *build* abstractions.
> > (By extension, only advanced computer scientists use abstraction built by
> > others.)
>
> But not this. In introductory computer science, students learn to build and
> use abstractions (the programming language used typically employs many
> abstractions - part of intro comp sci is learning the language).
I think your point is well-taken. I admit, my statement was
phrased too carefully for a silly post.
I was just making a small point that what's good in mathematics isn't
necessarily what's good in computer science (though there are a lot
of intersections.) In math courses I took (as a math major),
we seldom talked about how to put together structures
to create a new abstraction. We were presented with a structure
(i.e., the theorems) for an abstraction and were told to
fill in the blanks. In contrast, in even introductory
computer science courses I took (as a computer science
major) we were given much freedom about the structure of
our abstractions.
[I suggest this line of discussion continue at comp.edu. I have
set proper crosses, and followups.]
-- Farshad
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1997-05-02 0:00 ` Why one school changed from Pascal to C++ Philippe Allenbach
1997-05-02 0:00 ` Lance Kibblewhite
1997-05-02 0:00 ` Richard Watts
1997-05-03 0:00 ` Kevin Cline
1997-05-02 0:00 ` Farshad Nayeri
1997-05-05 0:00 ` Rennie Allen
1997-05-05 0:00 ` Farshad Nayeri [this message]
1997-05-06 0:00 ` Richard Watts
1997-05-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-06 0:00 ` Spencer Allain
1997-05-13 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-05-15 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-06 0:00 ` Farshad Nayeri
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