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From: antialias@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Do I Really Need A Supervisor?
Date: 1997/03/17
Date: 1997-03-17T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <332E163F.5EFD@earthlink.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 332D8B38.4056@watson.ibm.com


Oh, heck, maybe it didn't belong on comp.lang.ada, but this
IS the kind of software engineering environment that Ada 
software is developed in...this article was also posted to
comp.arch.embedded and comp.software-eng...the comments are
pretty much the same on those groups, many agree that I (we)
don't need supervisors, but many try to defend the role of the
supervisor...hmmm, I wonder if these defenders are themselves
supervisors...

...but then there is this rather curious response which was 
emailed to me but not posted:

> Yes.  You absolutely need a supervisor. 
> 
> Let us assume that you are a very able software engineer, but there 
> is apparently a definite problem.  Maybe you do not convey any 
> confidence that you are capable of performing real work.  Do you 
> convey the idea that you are a mal-content, a trouble maker, of 
> technically questionable ability?
> 
> You state that you have a supervisor, that leads only two people. If
> that is true, that "well known aerospace firm" would not be profitable,
> for very long.  Is that level of supervision required because of your 
> behavior, your attitude?
> 
> As a software engineer, you need a "road map" to help in your design.
> A corporation needs a "road map" to define profitability.  The customer
> needs to know that your design will meet their needs.  Why are you so
> antagonistic towards individuals that are not software engineers?  
> 
> Your attitiude towards SEI shows me that you are not a very discplined
> engineer.  What are you trying ot hide?
> 
> A good software engineer desires supervision, to isolate them from the 
> corporate politics, to shelter them from the customer, etc.  A good 
> supervisor does not need to be as technically astute as yourself.  That 
> is why they are paying you.   
> 
> In my background, I have managed software engineers, a few as five and
> as many as thirty-five.  I am currently working, as a softweare engiunere, 
> in a contract position.  Why did I give up management, to return to 
> engineering?  This is fun, if there is a manager.  If not, I might
> as well return to the politics.
> 
> I hope that I never have the mis-fortune of working with you, or the
> horror of having you work for me.  I know I will never have to worry
> about working for you.
> 

Very strange, very,very strange...





  reply	other threads:[~1997-03-17  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-03-12  0:00 Do I Really Need A Supervisor? Auntie Alias
1997-03-13  0:00 ` Mats Weber
1997-03-14  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-13  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-13  0:00   ` Samuel Tardieu
1997-03-13  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-13  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-13  0:00   ` David Brown
1997-03-13  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-14  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-15  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-17  0:00           ` Norman H. Cohen
1997-03-17  0:00             ` antialias [this message]
1997-03-18  0:00               ` nasser
1997-03-20  0:00                 ` John Apa
1997-03-19  0:00               ` John Apa
1997-03-19  0:00                 ` antialias
     [not found]               ` <33301E64.110E@delphi.dasd.honeywe <3330BE71.695@earthlink.net>
1997-03-20  0:00                 ` jim hopper
1997-03-20  0:00                   ` Michael F Brenner
1997-03-14  0:00   ` Laurent Guerby
1997-03-14  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-13  0:00 ` David Wheeler
1997-03-13  0:00 ` Jay Martin
1997-03-13  0:00 ` Jay Martin
1997-03-13  0:00   ` Randall Edick
1997-03-14  0:00     ` David Taylor
1997-03-15  0:00       ` Richard Kenner
1997-03-17  0:00         ` Randall Edick
1997-03-17  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-18  0:00             ` Randall Edick
1997-03-18  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-19  0:00                 ` Michael F Brenner
1997-03-19  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-21  0:00                 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-03-22  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-24  0:00                     ` the one and only real true kibo
1997-03-21  0:00             ` John G. Volan
1997-03-21  0:00             ` John G. Volan
1997-03-21  0:00             ` John G. Volan
1997-03-21  0:00             ` John G. Volan
1997-03-22  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-14  0:00   ` John Apa
1997-03-17  0:00   ` Graham C. Hughes
1997-03-19  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]   ` <01bc3276$57fc1800$0902a8c0@alice>
1997-03-18  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-18  0:00       ` Jay Martin
1997-03-18  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-20  0:00   ` Corey Minyard
1997-03-24  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-25  0:00     ` L. Darrell Ray
1997-03-27  0:00       ` duncan
1997-04-10  0:00         ` BAT0000000
1997-03-27  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-27  0:00         ` Michael Malak
1997-03-27  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-28  0:00     ` Laurent Guerby
1997-03-13  0:00 ` Michael F Brenner
1997-03-14  0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1997-03-21  0:00 ` antialias
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