From: Michael & Amy Hartsough <Hartsough@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: CRC in Ada?
Date: 1997/03/16
Date: 1997-03-16T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <332C9185.61C1@worldnet.att.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.858525008@merv
Robert Dewar wrote:
>
> <<It took my Ada CRC32 18 minutes to calculate the checksum for a 65K file! It too
> k
> the C++ CRC32 27 seconds to checksum the same file! Timings were performed using
> the stopwatch function on my Timex. ;^) Why the difference? File I/O. Turns out
> all but about 8-9 seconds of those 18 minutes were spent reading from the hard d
> isk!>>
>
> It would be interesting to see how you coded this up, surely you did not
> use Text_IO for the I/O (as I say, I have almost never seen people use
I instantiated Sequential I/O with an unsigned 8-bit type.
> One other thing here is that I generally find that when people recode a
> piece of code written in language X into language Y, they often do a much
> worse job than if they wrote a new program from scratch in Y. It is much
> too easy to copy inappropriate approaches and design from the other
> implementation. It would be an interesting experiment to code up something
> like the CRC efficiently in Ada, which of course can be done, and then
> have it translated to C++. For example, if one used packed arrays in Ada,
> you can often get some very efficient code that does not map nicely into
> C++ at all. The proper approach for recoding this in C++ is to redesign
> the data structures, but it would be a path of lesser resistance to emulate
> the packed stuff inefficiently in C.
In this particular case I don't think you'd see a great deal of difference.
There's some anding and xoring, a table look up and the 8-bit shift right and
that's about it (the code's at work, I'm at home now). So you're basically
about as close to machine code as you can get with a HOL.
If you don't include the file access time, the Ada and C++ execution times were
nearly identical.
Later,
Michael
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Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1997-03-02 0:00 CRC in Ada? Dr. John B. Matthews
1997-03-03 0:00 ` David Brown
1997-03-03 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Stephen Garriga
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Stephen Garriga
1997-03-15 0:00 ` Michael & Amy Hartsough
1997-03-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-16 0:00 ` Michael & Amy Hartsough [this message]
1997-03-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-18 0:00 ` Michael & Amy Hartsough
1997-03-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-20 0:00 ` Michael & Amy Hartsough
1997-03-22 0:00 ` Mark & Zurima McKinney
1997-03-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-24 0:00 ` Sequential IO on OpenVMS (was: CRC in Ada?) Ken Garlington
1997-03-24 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-21 0:00 ` CRC in Ada? Tom Moran
1997-03-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-23 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1997-03-24 0:00 ` Portable Code (was: CRC in Ada?) Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-24 0:00 ` CRC in Ada? Robert A Duff
1997-03-24 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-24 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-24 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-25 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-04-01 0:00 ` David Emery
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Stephen Garriga
1997-03-07 0:00 ` John Apa
1997-03-04 0:00 ` David L Brown
1997-03-04 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Stephen Garriga
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-09 0:00 ` Dr. John B. Matthews
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Tom Moran
[not found] ` <1997Mar7.202252.1@eisner>
1997-03-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-09 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Mats Weber
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Dr. John B. Matthews
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-10 0:00 ` David Brown
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Tarjei Jensen
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Graham Hughes
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Graham Hughes
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Mark & Zurima McKinney
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-03-13 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-15 0:00 ` Dr. John B. Matthews
1997-03-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-17 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-08 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Graham Hughes
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-09 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-08 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-07 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-07 0:00 ` David Brown
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1997-03-10 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-11 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Jim Balter
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-12 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-03-05 0:00 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1997-03-05 0:00 ` Laurent Pautet
1997-03-06 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
2013-11-14 17:39 ` david
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2013-11-14 19:35 ` tmoran
2013-11-14 20:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-11-14 20:40 ` John B. Matthews
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1997-03-13 0:00 tmoran
1997-03-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Joakim Olsson
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1997-03-15 0:00 ` Tom Moran
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