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From: Randall Edick <rre9518@ss5010.ca.boeing.com>
Subject: Re: Do I Really Need A Supervisor?
Date: 1997/03/13
Date: 1997-03-13T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <33285CC6.1CFB@ss5010.ca.boeing.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5g7u24$1jeg@uni.library.ucla.edu


Jay Martin wrote:
> 
> Auntie Alias <antialias@earthlink.net> writes:
> 
> >Do I Really Need A Supervisor?
> 
> >I work for a well known aerospace firm developing embeddded
> >Ada software for a well known fighter aircraft. I have been
> >developing embedded Ada software for going on ten years now,
> >having contributed to missile, aircraft, tank and electronic
> >warfare systems now fielded. Like many of you out there I have
> >a wide range of experience developing Ada software for a wide
> >variety of processors. Like most companies, my present client
> >integrates me into a large and deeply nested management
> >environment - I have two direct supervisors (one functional,
> >one project) who each have their supervisors (functional and
> >project) who each have their supervisors, who have their
> >supervisors, etc,etc...My question is, Do I really need
> >a supervisor?
> 
> >It has been my observation over the years that one step above
> >where I work, there is little or no software development done,
> >i.e, my boss does mostly management "work" - going to meetings,
> >interfacing with other supervisors, tracking my progress. My
> >bosses rarely contribute anything of technical value to the
> >project. Most of the time, they have little or no understanding
> >of what it is that I am working on. Often times, they have little
> >or no understanding even how to do my job - sometimes they are
> >not even trained as software people. Too many times in my career
> >I have had to explain the most basic ideas of Ada programming
> >to my boss. (For example, I have twice had to explain to a boss
> >that an Ada program needs a main procedure - that it was not just
> >a collection of packages that somehow starts running.)
> 
....

SAY IT BROTHER.  

Please see the other items I posted today. I'm fed up with this
nonsense, and I'm telling my supervision.

Where would we be without managment?  An excellent example is
Linux.  NO MANAGEMENT.  One of the largest, most complex, best
technical, best selling efforts of all time.  All done by techies
over the internet.

Speaking up is good for our companies.

Try what I'm doing.  I write software on my own time with plans
to sell for myself (I got formal permission).  It is an 
understatement to say that I outproduce my group in my spare
time.  I'm not the best technically either, I'm simple able 
to ditch this crap.

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Randall Edick                                tel   (206)234-7882
Structures Research				    		 fax   (206)234-1499
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  reply	other threads:[~1997-03-13  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-03-12  0:00 Do I Really Need A Supervisor? Auntie Alias
1997-03-13  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-13  0:00   ` David Brown
1997-03-13  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-14  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-15  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-17  0:00           ` Norman H. Cohen
1997-03-17  0:00             ` antialias
1997-03-18  0:00               ` nasser
1997-03-20  0:00                 ` John Apa
1997-03-19  0:00               ` John Apa
1997-03-19  0:00                 ` antialias
     [not found]               ` <33301E64.110E@delphi.dasd.honeywe <3330BE71.695@earthlink.net>
1997-03-20  0:00                 ` jim hopper
1997-03-20  0:00                   ` Michael F Brenner
1997-03-13  0:00   ` Samuel Tardieu
1997-03-13  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-13  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-14  0:00   ` Laurent Guerby
1997-03-14  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-13  0:00 ` Mats Weber
1997-03-14  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-13  0:00 ` Jay Martin
1997-03-13  0:00   ` Randall Edick [this message]
1997-03-14  0:00     ` David Taylor
1997-03-15  0:00       ` Richard Kenner
1997-03-17  0:00         ` Randall Edick
1997-03-17  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-18  0:00             ` Randall Edick
1997-03-18  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-19  0:00                 ` Michael F Brenner
1997-03-19  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-21  0:00                 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-03-22  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-24  0:00                     ` the one and only real true kibo
1997-03-21  0:00             ` John G. Volan
1997-03-21  0:00             ` John G. Volan
1997-03-21  0:00             ` John G. Volan
1997-03-22  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-21  0:00             ` John G. Volan
1997-03-14  0:00   ` John Apa
1997-03-17  0:00   ` Graham C. Hughes
1997-03-19  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]   ` <01bc3276$57fc1800$0902a8c0@alice>
1997-03-18  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-18  0:00       ` Jay Martin
1997-03-18  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-20  0:00   ` Corey Minyard
1997-03-24  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-25  0:00     ` L. Darrell Ray
1997-03-27  0:00       ` duncan
1997-04-10  0:00         ` BAT0000000
1997-03-27  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-27  0:00         ` Michael Malak
1997-03-27  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-28  0:00     ` Laurent Guerby
1997-03-13  0:00 ` Jay Martin
1997-03-13  0:00 ` David Wheeler
1997-03-13  0:00 ` Michael F Brenner
1997-03-14  0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1997-03-21  0:00 ` antialias
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