* Continuus/CM and Alsys Ada(83) @ 1996-10-01 0:00 Marco Gibellini - GBL 1996-10-01 0:00 ` Gary Palmer 1996-10-01 0:00 ` Michael F Brenner 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Marco Gibellini - GBL @ 1996-10-01 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: say We are using Continuus/CM and the Aslys Ada(83) compiler. We would like to share experiences (problems) of the integration between the two tools (I hope that someone else is using them as well). Any hints and tips appreciated. -- Marco Gibellini (SEU) | Eurocontrol Experimental Centre Phone: +33.1-69.88.75.68 | B.P. 15 Fax: +33.1-69.88.72.27 | F-91222 Bretigny sur Orge CDX mailto:marco.gibellini@eurocontrol.fr | France ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Continuus/CM and Alsys Ada(83) 1996-10-01 0:00 Continuus/CM and Alsys Ada(83) Marco Gibellini - GBL @ 1996-10-01 0:00 ` Gary Palmer 1996-10-02 0:00 ` Marco Gibellini - GBL 1996-10-01 0:00 ` Michael F Brenner 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Gary Palmer @ 1996-10-01 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Marco Gibellini - GBL wrote: > > We are using Continuus/CM and the Aslys Ada(83) compiler. > > We would like to share experiences (problems) of the integration > between the two tools (I hope that someone else is using > them as well). > > Any hints and tips appreciated. I was under the impression that the integration was no longer available. A search of the www.continuus.com web site for alsys showed 1 hit on the Dutch page. When I checked for the English equiv, I had their home page. Your question may be better stated as "Is anyone using this?" When I used the two products, the integration had strongly defined boundaries of what it would and would not do. For what it did, it worked. For the completeness of what it did, that left a little to be desired. I think the original design emanated from a customers requirements. Cheers, Gary ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Continuus/CM and Alsys Ada(83) 1996-10-01 0:00 ` Gary Palmer @ 1996-10-02 0:00 ` Marco Gibellini - GBL 1996-10-03 0:00 ` Greg Dickie X2955 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Marco Gibellini - GBL @ 1996-10-02 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Gary Palmer wrote: > > I was under the impression that the integration was no longer available. > A search of the www.continuus.com web site for alsys showed 1 hit on the > Dutch page. When I checked for the English equiv, I had their home > page. You are right. We have no 'official' integration from Continuus. We are just trying to use both tools together and would like to know what solutions people have come up with for controlling and building the Ada libraries under Continuus.. > Your question may be better stated as "Is anyone using this?" Yes, is anyone actually using Continuus and Alsys? Cheers, Marco -- Marco Gibellini (SEU) | Eurocontrol Experimental Centre Phone: +33.1-69.88.75.68 | B.P. 15 Fax: +33.1-69.88.72.27 | F-91222 Bretigny sur Orge CDX mailto:marco.gibellini@eurocontrol.fr | France ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Continuus/CM and Alsys Ada(83) 1996-10-02 0:00 ` Marco Gibellini - GBL @ 1996-10-03 0:00 ` Greg Dickie X2955 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Greg Dickie X2955 @ 1996-10-03 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Actually we are using Continuus/CM with the TELESOFT RISCAda compiler, we did our own integration & it works quite well, next step is ObjectADA and Continuus. BTW: Support from Thomson (ALSYS) and Continuus has been great. Marco Gibellini - GBL (marco.gibellini@eurocontrol.fr) wrote: : Gary Palmer wrote: : > : > I was under the impression that the integration was no longer available. : > A search of the www.continuus.com web site for alsys showed 1 hit on the : > Dutch page. When I checked for the English equiv, I had their home : > page. : You are right. : We have no 'official' integration from Continuus. : We are just trying to use both tools together and would like to know : what solutions people have come up with for controlling and building the : Ada libraries under Continuus.. : > Your question may be better stated as "Is anyone using this?" : Yes, is anyone actually using Continuus and Alsys? : Cheers, Marco : -- : Marco Gibellini (SEU) | Eurocontrol Experimental Centre : Phone: +33.1-69.88.75.68 | B.P. 15 : Fax: +33.1-69.88.72.27 | F-91222 Bretigny sur Orge CDX : mailto:marco.gibellini@eurocontrol.fr | France -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Dickie Just a Guy CAE Electronics Ltd. Montreal, Canada (514) 341-6780 X2955 greg@cae.ca ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Continuus/CM and Alsys Ada(83) 1996-10-01 0:00 Continuus/CM and Alsys Ada(83) Marco Gibellini - GBL 1996-10-01 0:00 ` Gary Palmer @ 1996-10-01 0:00 ` Michael F Brenner 1996-10-03 0:00 ` Marco Gibellini - GBL 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Michael F Brenner @ 1996-10-01 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) I am very interested in both of these tools, but what do you mean by integrating them together? Do you mean using CCM to manage the configuration of your source code and documentation, to be compiled by Alsys? > re using Continuus/CM and the Aslys Ada(83) compiler. > > We would like to share experiences (problems) of the integration > between the two tools (I hope that someone else is using > them as well). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Continuus/CM and Alsys Ada(83) 1996-10-01 0:00 ` Michael F Brenner @ 1996-10-03 0:00 ` Marco Gibellini - GBL 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Marco Gibellini - GBL @ 1996-10-03 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael F Brenner Michael F Brenner wrote: > I am very interested in both of these tools, but what do you mean by > integrating them together? Do you mean using CCM to manage the > configuration of your source code and documentation, to be > compiled by Alsys? Yes. This is exactly what we want, but our setup only allow us to do this with the help of some (relativly) complex makefiles and shell scripts rather than using the Continuus/OM tool. One of the projects we have is relativly large (2000+ compilation units), so the Ada library is huge and a complete library compilation (using Alsys AdaMake) takes in the order of 2 hours. There are usually several versions of each project under concurrent development so to hold a full Ada compilation libray for each sqa, integration and working version of the project is unfeasable. Although we are trying to restructure, we currently have to work with this monolithic project structure. We do not want to control the Ada libraries as they can be regenerated from the source, and change freequently as developers modify and test code. The question is, how do other users manage the relationship between each Continuus project version and the Alsys Ada library corresponding to that version? Our current strategy is to hold a 'full' library for each complete sqa and integration library, and use these as 'parent' libraries (Alsys terminology) for each working project version. Our makefiles and scripts then try to manage the relationships between the Alsys Ada libraries and Continuus project versions. Although this messes up developer's libraries sometimes (e.g. when the subunits of an Ada package change), it works most of the time. We also have problems with changing configurations e.g. using an old version of somthing in a developer's view, which the compiler does not recompile as it 'sees' a newer version in the integration library. Does anyone else manage large Ada projects using Continuus, and if so, how? I get the impression that Continuus is not really targetted to controlling objects with Ada like dependencies between them. Continuus/OM does however seem to have specific support for 'C' source and include files. -- Marco Gibellini (SEU) | Eurocontrol Experimental Centre Phone: +33.1-69.88.75.68 | B.P. 15 Fax: +33.1-69.88.72.27 | F-91222 Bretigny sur Orge CDX mailto:marco.gibellini@eurocontrol.fr | France ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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