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From: shebs@utah-cs.UUCP (Stanley Shebs)
Subject: Re: Thus spake the DoD...
Date: Fri, 1-Mar-85 14:00:59 EST	[thread overview]
Date: Fri Mar  1 14:00:59 1985
Message-ID: <3226@utah-cs.UUCP> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 76@daisy.UUCP

In article <76@daisy.UUCP> david@daisy.UUCP (David Schachter) writes:
>
>Mr. Shebs asks for one thing that Pascal or Ada do better than Lisp.  One
>thing is that Pascal runs on the IBM  PC and other low-end, cheap, widely
>available hardware platforms.  If you want other people to buy your programs,
>this is can be an important thing.  Lisp has a reputation for not running well
>on small cheap boxes.  If this reputation is deserved, then Pascal is a better
>choice for some applications.  (Elegance isn't everything.  Profitability
>counts too.)

Our Lisp dialect PSL runs on 128K Macintoshes and is used by freshmen here.
However, it *does* use the entire available space and leaves only a very
small heap!  Harold Carr recently showed how to make compiled Lisp programs
work outside of a large environment - it hasn't been done in the past
because nobody was interested in exchanging a comfortable and sophisticated
environment for the crude and primitive ones usually associated with
C and Pascal (Un*x notwithstanding).

							stan shebs

  reply	other threads:[~1985-03-01 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1985-02-14 15:59 Thus spake the DoD Frederick J Dickey
1985-02-17  1:58 ` Robert Hofkin
1985-02-17 16:36 ` g-frank
1985-02-18  5:18   ` Skef Wholey
1985-02-18 14:33 ` Chuck Hedrick
1985-02-19 19:09   ` Daniel J. Salomon
1985-02-22  2:21     ` LISP &c (re: the DoD...) Thomas M. Breuel
1985-02-25 17:08     ` Thus spake the DoD Jan Steinman
1985-02-26 23:20     ` Stanley Shebs
1985-02-27 19:22       ` Daniel J. Salomon
1985-03-01 19:30         ` Stanley Shebs
1985-03-01 20:13         ` neves
1985-03-02  4:33         ` Thomas M. Breuel
1985-03-02 18:35           ` Efficiency of LISP Marty Sasaki
1985-03-03  0:23         ` Language criticism Greg Davidson
1985-03-06 14:13         ` Thus spake the DoD geb
1985-02-28  3:16       ` David Schachter
1985-03-01 19:00         ` Stanley Shebs [this message]
1985-03-03  3:08         ` Joaquim Martillo
1985-03-03  6:12         ` T J Jardine
1985-03-05 16:55           ` Jan Steinman
1985-03-05 21:07           ` Robert A. Pease
1985-03-12  1:47           ` Ed Colbert
1985-03-13 19:35       ` Monique M Taylor
1985-03-17 19:49         ` Jan Steinman
1985-03-21  1:17           ` faustus
1985-03-12  0:25     ` Efficiency of LISP Stavros Macrakis
1985-03-12  2:11     ` Efficiency of numerical Lisp code (details) Stavros Macrakis
1985-03-13  7:05     ` Chuck Hedrick
1985-03-13 20:00     ` Speed with numbers: PDP-10 Maclisp vs. Fortran (details) Stavros Macrakis
1985-03-14 10:12       ` Tim Maroney
1985-03-15  0:27         ` Bill Henneman
1985-03-16  0:59           ` Tim Maroney
1985-03-17 18:58             ` Bill Henneman
1985-03-18  5:02               ` Multi-language systems Marty Sasaki
1985-03-20 17:01                 ` Tom Slack
1985-03-18 21:24               ` Speed with numbers: PDP-10 Maclisp vs. Fortran (details) Tim Maroney
1985-03-19  6:45                 ` Fortran better than Lisp for numerical code? Barry Margolin
1985-03-19 17:35                   ` Speed of Lisp numerical code Stavros Macrakis
1985-03-20 21:04                   ` Fortran better than Lisp for numerical code? T J Jardine
1985-03-22  2:10                     ` Joe Orost
1985-03-19 16:15                 ` Speed with numbers: PDP-10 Maclisp vs. Fortran (details) Bill Henneman
1985-03-19  3:40               ` Norman Diamond
1985-03-18  3:01             ` Common Lisp and Arrays Joaquim Martillo
1985-02-18 23:49 ` Thus spake the DoD M.Fischer
1985-03-14 20:50 ` Speed with numbers: PDP-10 Maclisp vs. Fortran (details) Stavros Macrakis
1985-03-15 15:42 ` Stanley Shebs
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1985-02-15 14:34 Thus spake the DoD Frederick J Dickey
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