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From: eli@smectos.gang.umass.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: GNU c++ bashing (was Re: c++ vs ada results)
Date: 14 Jun 91 17:56:03 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32088@dime.cs.umass.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1991Jun12.201740.16463@netcom.COM


I took this out of the graphics groups cuz it's not graphics.
In article <1991Jun12.201740.16463@netcom.COM> jls@netcom.COM (Jim Showalter) writes:

[ Ada/C++ discussion axed ]

>>o	C++ compilers are cheap -- the GNU family is free, and runs 
>>	on a number of different architectures.  You can get the source 
>>	code so that you can fix it if it's broken.
>
>You get what you pay for. Personally, I'd much prefer to buy a validated
>compiler with the number of bugs approaching zero than use a free compiler
>so shot full of bugs the source code is provided to me to patch around
>problems that SHOULD have been taken care of by the vendor.

Out of curiosity, have you actually used a GNU compiler?  If so, could you
specify some of the bugs with which it was "shot through".  Please, only note
those which directly affected you, because *commercial* compiler vendors don't
tell you about other bugfixes.  My experience has been that gcc is less buggy
than Sun cc or (smirk) Microsoft C.  I've had no problems working on a
prospective Obfuscated C entry.  Can you honestly tell me that you've never
wanted to look at, tweak, port, or tinker with your compiler?  Difficult
without source.  As for support, I suspect the net will be around longer than
most Ada vendors.

GCC sidenote:  It appears that gcc -O generates division code which is about six 
times faster than SGI's cc -O on a 4D.  Multiplication is "only" 70% faster.  Has
anybody else seen numbers like these?  A factor of six seems just a bit odd.
"You get what you pay for"?


[ C++ bashing, much of which I agree with, axed ]

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  parent reply	other threads:[~1991-06-14 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1991-06-12 16:47 c++ vs ada results alan dare
1991-06-12 19:15 ` Paul Martz
1991-06-12 20:17 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-13 20:49   ` Paul Kohlmiller
1991-06-13 23:12     ` Bruce Jones
1991-06-14 17:56   ` Eli Brandt [this message]
1991-06-16  2:48   ` Russ Nelson
1991-06-16  4:10   ` Sean Eric Fagan
1991-06-18  4:17     ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-18  8:33       ` Sean Eric Fagan
1991-06-18 21:53         ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-18 12:28       ` Mats Henricson
1991-06-18 22:06         ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-19 15:07           ` Dan Weinreb
1991-06-19 17:00           ` Doug Smith
1991-06-20 14:08             ` Steve Juneau
1991-06-20 19:56               ` Robert I. Eachus
1991-06-21 17:27                 ` David M Geary
1991-06-20 22:09               ` Paul Stachour
1991-06-21 17:03                 ` David M Geary
1991-06-23  3:14                   ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-26 22:13                 ` Dan Weinreb
1991-06-21 22:01               ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-20 14:35             ` chief programmer team organizations was (c++ vs ada results) Alex Blakemore
1991-06-21 12:40               ` chief programmer team organizations was (c++ vs ada results)H house ron
1991-06-21 15:47                 ` chief programmer team organizations Joseph Beckenbach {Adapter Software Release Engr}
1991-06-21 22:25                 ` chief programmer team organizations was (c++ vs ada results)H Jim Showalter
1991-06-26 22:18                   ` Dan Weinreb
1991-06-21 22:04               ` chief programmer team organizations was (c++ vs ada results) Lars P. Fischer
1991-06-23  3:17                 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-24 13:23                 ` Jim Hargrove
1991-06-21 22:21               ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-22  2:14               ` John Nagle
1991-06-23  3:23                 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-23 13:21                   ` David Feustel
1991-06-23 18:54                     ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-27 15:30                     ` Dan Weinreb
1991-06-24  4:00                   ` Marco S Hyman
1991-06-24 20:23                     ` Stanley Friesen
1991-06-26  0:37                       ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-24 20:29                     ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-24 18:29                   ` John Nagle
1991-06-25 18:38                     ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-25 19:30                       ` Christopher Warack
1991-06-25 20:06                     ` chief programmer team organizations John Baldwin
1991-06-24  9:36                 ` chief programmer team organizations was (c++ vs ada results) George C. Harrison, Norfolk State University
1991-06-25 13:42                   ` Harry Erwin
1991-06-26 16:15                 ` Bob Martin
1991-06-19 18:36           ` c++ vs ada results Jim Showalter
1991-06-19 15:01         ` Dan Weinreb
1991-06-24  2:29         ` Andrew Dunstan
1991-06-24 10:06           ` David Emery
1991-06-24 13:16           ` Mats Henricson
1991-06-25  4:29           ` Tom McClory
1991-06-26  0:35             ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-26  1:26             ` Andrew Dunstan
1991-06-26 22:47               ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-27 15:47                 ` Alex Blakemore
1991-06-27 23:58                   ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-25 19:27           ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-23 23:59       ` CBW Consulting
1991-06-24 20:11         ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-12 21:27 ` Dan L. Pierson
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