From: eli@smectos.gang.umass.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: GNU c++ bashing (was Re: c++ vs ada results)
Date: 14 Jun 91 17:56:03 GMT [thread overview]
Message-ID: <32088@dime.cs.umass.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1991Jun12.201740.16463@netcom.COM
I took this out of the graphics groups cuz it's not graphics.
In article <1991Jun12.201740.16463@netcom.COM> jls@netcom.COM (Jim Showalter) writes:
[ Ada/C++ discussion axed ]
>>o C++ compilers are cheap -- the GNU family is free, and runs
>> on a number of different architectures. You can get the source
>> code so that you can fix it if it's broken.
>
>You get what you pay for. Personally, I'd much prefer to buy a validated
>compiler with the number of bugs approaching zero than use a free compiler
>so shot full of bugs the source code is provided to me to patch around
>problems that SHOULD have been taken care of by the vendor.
Out of curiosity, have you actually used a GNU compiler? If so, could you
specify some of the bugs with which it was "shot through". Please, only note
those which directly affected you, because *commercial* compiler vendors don't
tell you about other bugfixes. My experience has been that gcc is less buggy
than Sun cc or (smirk) Microsoft C. I've had no problems working on a
prospective Obfuscated C entry. Can you honestly tell me that you've never
wanted to look at, tweak, port, or tinker with your compiler? Difficult
without source. As for support, I suspect the net will be around longer than
most Ada vendors.
GCC sidenote: It appears that gcc -O generates division code which is about six
times faster than SGI's cc -O on a 4D. Multiplication is "only" 70% faster. Has
anybody else seen numbers like these? A factor of six seems just a bit odd.
"You get what you pay for"?
[ C++ bashing, much of which I agree with, axed ]
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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1991-06-12 16:47 c++ vs ada results alan dare
1991-06-12 19:15 ` Paul Martz
1991-06-12 20:17 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-13 20:49 ` Paul Kohlmiller
1991-06-13 23:12 ` Bruce Jones
1991-06-14 17:56 ` Eli Brandt [this message]
1991-06-16 2:48 ` Russ Nelson
1991-06-16 4:10 ` Sean Eric Fagan
1991-06-18 4:17 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-18 8:33 ` Sean Eric Fagan
1991-06-18 21:53 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-18 12:28 ` Mats Henricson
1991-06-18 22:06 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-19 15:07 ` Dan Weinreb
1991-06-19 17:00 ` Doug Smith
1991-06-20 14:08 ` Steve Juneau
1991-06-20 19:56 ` Robert I. Eachus
1991-06-21 17:27 ` David M Geary
1991-06-20 22:09 ` Paul Stachour
1991-06-21 17:03 ` David M Geary
1991-06-23 3:14 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-26 22:13 ` Dan Weinreb
1991-06-21 22:01 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-20 14:35 ` chief programmer team organizations was (c++ vs ada results) Alex Blakemore
1991-06-21 12:40 ` chief programmer team organizations was (c++ vs ada results)H house ron
1991-06-21 15:47 ` chief programmer team organizations Joseph Beckenbach {Adapter Software Release Engr}
1991-06-21 22:25 ` chief programmer team organizations was (c++ vs ada results)H Jim Showalter
1991-06-26 22:18 ` Dan Weinreb
1991-06-21 22:04 ` chief programmer team organizations was (c++ vs ada results) Lars P. Fischer
1991-06-23 3:17 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-24 13:23 ` Jim Hargrove
1991-06-21 22:21 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-22 2:14 ` John Nagle
1991-06-23 3:23 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-23 13:21 ` David Feustel
1991-06-23 18:54 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-27 15:30 ` Dan Weinreb
1991-06-24 4:00 ` Marco S Hyman
1991-06-24 20:23 ` Stanley Friesen
1991-06-26 0:37 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-24 20:29 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-24 18:29 ` John Nagle
1991-06-25 18:38 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-25 19:30 ` Christopher Warack
1991-06-25 20:06 ` chief programmer team organizations John Baldwin
1991-06-24 9:36 ` chief programmer team organizations was (c++ vs ada results) George C. Harrison, Norfolk State University
1991-06-25 13:42 ` Harry Erwin
1991-06-26 16:15 ` Bob Martin
1991-06-19 18:36 ` c++ vs ada results Jim Showalter
1991-06-19 15:01 ` Dan Weinreb
1991-06-24 2:29 ` Andrew Dunstan
1991-06-24 10:06 ` David Emery
1991-06-24 13:16 ` Mats Henricson
1991-06-25 4:29 ` Tom McClory
1991-06-26 0:35 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-26 1:26 ` Andrew Dunstan
1991-06-26 22:47 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-27 15:47 ` Alex Blakemore
1991-06-27 23:58 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-25 19:27 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-23 23:59 ` CBW Consulting
1991-06-24 20:11 ` Jim Showalter
1991-06-12 21:27 ` Dan L. Pierson
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