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From: Mike Young <mikey@mcs.com>
Subject: Re: some questions re. Ada/GNAT from a C++/GCC user
Date: 1996/03/31
Date: 1996-03-31T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <315F4A9D.7E6F@mcs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4jmuj5$lkh@dayuc.dayton.saic.com

John G. Volan wrote:
> 
> One difficulty I see with intermingling declarations and statements is
> how to interpret declarations within conditional or iterative constructs.
> For instance:
> 
>     -- This is NOT Ada, this is CRAPOLA (C-Reminiscent Ada-like Perversion
>     -- Of Language Aspects)  :-) :
>     begin
>         ...
>         if Smaller then
>             X : Integer;
>             ...
>         elsif Bigger then
>             X : Long_Integer;
>             ...
>         end if;
>         ...
>         -- is X in scope here, and if so, what the heck is it?
>         ...

==========
(Cute acronym; not sure if I like it though. :)

The scoping rules in C++ are quite simple: the object comes into 
existence at the point of definition, and persists until the end of the 
enclosing scope. In your example, X would is created at its declaration 
(eg.: X : Long_Integer;), and is destroyed at the corresponding elsif or 
endif.

Sprinkling declarations willy-nilly throughout the code is more than a 
matter of convenience. Construction of objects sometimes entail 
non-trivial construction. Rather than force a two step process -- 
construction at declaration, and then subsequent initialization -- it is 
very common to declare the object "just-in-time," and combine the two 
steps. This frees the object designer from allowing for an undefined 
state, which would exist if construction were separated from 
initialization.

Personally, I like it this way. It's very easy to verify that all 
objects are correctly initialized before use when all objects are 
initialized at their points of construction. The object does not exist 
before it is initialized.

Mike.




  reply	other threads:[~1996-03-31  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-03-27  0:00 some questions re. Ada/GNAT from a C++/GCC user Bill Newman
1996-03-27  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-28  0:00   ` Brian Rogoff
1996-03-29  0:00     ` John G. Volan
1996-03-30  0:00       ` Mike Young
1996-03-30  0:00         ` Ted Dennison
1996-03-31  0:00           ` Mike Young
1996-03-30  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-31  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-31  0:00         ` John G. Volan
1996-03-31  0:00           ` Mike Young [this message]
1996-04-02  0:00             ` Glenn H. Porter
1996-04-02  0:00               ` Jonas Nygren
1996-04-02  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-03  0:00               ` Geert Bosch
1996-04-03  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-03  0:00             ` Scott Leschke
1996-04-04  0:00               ` AdaWorks
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Bruce.Conroy
1996-04-01  0:00       ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-04-01  0:00         ` Mike Young
1996-04-02  0:00           ` David Shochat
1996-04-02  0:00             ` Mike Young
1996-04-02  0:00           ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-04-02  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-01  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Mike Young
1996-04-02  0:00             ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-04-02  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-28  0:00   ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-28  0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1996-03-29  0:00   ` Adam Beneschan
1996-03-28  0:00 ` Scott Leschke
1996-03-29  0:00   ` Bill Newman
1996-03-29  0:00   ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-30  0:00     ` Richard Pitre
1996-03-30  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-31  0:00         ` AdaWorks
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-01  0:00             ` AdaWorks
1996-04-01  0:00               ` Mike Young
1996-04-02  0:00                 ` AdaWorks
1996-04-02  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-01  0:00             ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-01  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-02  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
1996-04-02  0:00                   ` Felaco
1996-04-02  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-03  0:00                     ` Mark A Biggar
1996-04-02  0:00                 ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-02  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-02  0:00                     ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-02  0:00                       ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-03  0:00                         ` David Emery
1996-04-03  0:00                         ` Ken Garlington
1996-04-09  0:00                           ` Matt Kennel
1996-04-01  0:00             ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-04-01  0:00         ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-01  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-02  0:00       ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-29  0:00   ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-29  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-29  0:00   ` Brian Rogoff
1996-04-01  0:00     ` Mark A Biggar
1996-04-01  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-30  0:00   ` Iterators (was Re: some questions re. Ada/GNAT from a C++/GCC user) Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-31  0:00     ` Mike Young
1996-03-31  0:00       ` Fergus Henderson
     [not found]   ` <4jlj79$h1k@Nntp1.mcs.net>
1996-04-01  0:00     ` some questions re. Ada/GNAT from a C++/GCC user Robert A Duff
1996-04-02  0:00       ` Kevin Cline
1996-04-02  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-01  0:00   ` Iterators (was Re: some questions re. Ada/GNAT from a C++/GCC user) Robert I. Eachus
1996-04-04  0:00   ` some questions re. Ada/GNAT from a C++/GCC user Jon S Anthony
1996-03-30  0:00 ` Simon Wright
1996-04-01  0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
1996-04-01  0:00   ` Robert A Duff
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1996-03-28  0:00 Simon Johnston
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