From: Ken Garlington <GarlingtonKE@lfwc.lockheed.com>
Subject: Re: Ada is almost useless in embedded systems
Date: 1996/02/21
Date: 1996-02-21T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <312B0C22.508B@lfwc.lockheed.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: adaworksDn1poH.Iu5@netcom.com
AdaWorks wrote:
>
> Whatever reasons you may have are not relevant given Ada's record of
> success.
I think that's a little harsh. Certainly with Ada 83 (which was the original
context of the topic), there were problems with using it for certain classes
of embedded systems - some technical, some not. None of them were insurmountable,
but they existed.
The point is: Ada is no longer Ada 83. Some of the Ada 95 revision requests were
written by people with the same gripes as Mr. McCabe, and those RRs were
incorporated into Ada 95 where possible. As a result, I think Ada 95 is a better
language for embedded systems programming than Ada 83, and so the Ada 83
experience is becoming obsolete from the technical side. From the non-technical
side (compiler maturity, cost, etc.) the Ada 95 world is also much improved from
the early days of Ada 83.
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1996-02-17 0:00 ` Ada is great for embedded systems (was Ada is almost useless in embedded systems) Ken & Virginia Garlington
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1996-02-19 0:00 ` Ada is almost useless in embedded systems AdaWorks
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Hugh Dunne
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
[not found] ` <4fnp37$nj1@theopolis.orl.mmc.com>
1996-02-22 0:00 ` Alan Brain
[not found] ` <4fgrq3$mc4@qualcomm.com>
[not found] ` <dewar.823962356@schonberg>
1996-02-17 0:00 ` Tore Joergensen
1996-02-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-19 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1996-02-19 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-02-19 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-02-19 0:00 ` R.A.L Williams
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-19 0:00 ` AdaWorks
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Ken Garlington [this message]
1996-02-23 0:00 ` AdaWorks
1996-02-26 0:00 ` R.A.L Williams
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1996-03-21 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-03-23 0:00 ` Side-effect arithmetic again [was: Ada ... in embedded systems] John G. Volan
1996-03-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-25 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-03-25 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-25 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-26 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-26 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-26 0:00 ` Tore Joergensen
1996-03-27 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-27 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-28 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-03-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-29 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-03-29 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-03-27 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-29 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-30 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-31 0:00 ` AdaWorks
1996-04-01 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-30 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-29 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
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1996-02-17 0:00 ` Ada is almost useless in embedded systems Robert Dewar
1996-02-18 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-02-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-19 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-02-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
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1996-02-17 0:00 ` Ken & Virginia Garlington
1996-02-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-18 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-02-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-19 0:00 ` John McCabe
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1996-02-26 0:00 ` Ada 83 " Alan Brain
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1996-03-15 0:00 ` Bug or Limitation? (was: Ada is almost useless in embedded systems) Robert Dewar
1996-03-16 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1996-03-20 0:00 ` Side-effect arithmetic again [was: Ada ... in embedded systems] Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-20 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-22 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1996-03-20 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-25 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-28 0:00 ` Mats Weber
1996-03-29 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1996-03-26 0:00 ` Mats Weber
1996-03-15 0:00 ` Ada is almost useless in embedded systems Robert I. Eachus
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1996-03-18 0:00 ` David Weller
1996-03-18 0:00 ` Alan Brain
[not found] ` <4ik5bm$ogg@dayuc.dayton.saic.com>
1996-03-18 0:00 ` Side-effect arithmetic again [was: Ada ... in embedded systems] Robert Dewar
1996-03-19 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-19 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-16 0:00 ` Ada is almost useless in embedded systems Kevin Dalley
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1996-03-15 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-18 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1996-03-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-18 0:00 ` Stephen Crawley
1996-03-19 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
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