From: Martin <martin@thedowies.com>
Subject: Re: Ada202X: Easy to use "UML private"-like components
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 04:19:33 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2013-06-21T04:19:33-07:00 [thread overview]
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On Friday, June 21, 2013 11:14:12 AM UTC+1, G.B. wrote:
> On 21.06.13 11:33, Martin wrote: > On Friday, June 21, 2013 10:23:51 AM UTC+1, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 01:43:05 -0700 (PDT), Martin wrote: > Secondly, I have to explain that using Ada "private" gives you "UML protected": Ada's private gives both protected for children of the package and private for non-children. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de > > But no easy means of keeping member data private from children. But no pointers needed; I hope the following example is a reasonably accurate paraphrase of a hint given by Tucker Taft some years ago, memory is vague. Not sure if UML has a concept for capturing this, but confident that Grady Booch knows Ada's visibility rules well. (Or should one find a sentence that has "possibilities" instead of "rules"?) package Opaque is type Exposed is tagged private; private package Invisible is type T is tagged private; private type Scalr is range 1 .. 2; type T is tagged record Comp_1 : Scalr; end record; end Invisible; type Exposed is new Invisible.T with null record; end Opaque; private package Opaque.Child is A : Invisible.T; Y : Invisible.Scalr := A.Comp_1; end Opaque.Child; Compiling: opaque-child.ads (source file time stamp: 2013-06-21 10:06:44) 4. Y : Invisible.Scalr := A.Comp_1; 1 2 >>> "Scalr" is not a visible entity of "Invisible" >>> no selector "Comp_1" for private type "T" defined at opaque.ads:8 5 lines: 2 errors Thus, even a private child cannot see anything behind doubled fences. I imagine that explaining this needs some spin doctoring.
Yeah, ok...hadn't thought of that way...
But really, it's still a bit embaressing and it's almost as bad as the access type solution...almost...
-- Martin
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2013-06-21 8:43 Ada202X: Easy to use "UML private"-like components Martin
2013-06-21 9:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-21 9:33 ` Martin
2013-06-21 10:14 ` G.B.
2013-06-21 11:19 ` Martin [this message]
2013-06-21 14:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-22 11:16 ` Martin
2013-06-22 12:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-21 18:36 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-22 16:41 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-22 19:05 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-06-22 22:57 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-23 3:26 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-06-23 7:32 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-23 13:12 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 14:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-23 15:15 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 18:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-23 23:38 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-24 7:16 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-24 20:11 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-25 7:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-25 19:06 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-24 20:07 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-23 14:40 ` Shark8
2013-06-23 15:28 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 18:14 ` Bill Findlay
2013-06-23 23:43 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 23:48 ` Bill Findlay
2013-06-24 20:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-24 20:05 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-25 1:09 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-25 19:37 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-23 12:28 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-24 20:20 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-24 21:40 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-25 0:43 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-25 19:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-25 19:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 11:24 ` Martin
2013-07-09 14:39 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-10 7:03 ` Martin
2013-07-09 21:43 ` Robert A Duff
2013-07-10 6:34 ` Martin
2013-07-10 8:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 13:06 ` Martin
2013-07-10 16:12 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-10 18:22 ` Martin
2013-07-10 19:41 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-11 18:28 ` Martin
2013-07-11 19:37 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-11 20:43 ` Martin
2013-07-12 6:57 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-12 8:05 ` Martin
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