From: Markus E Leypold <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de>
Subject: Re: F-22 Raptor software problem
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:15:09 +0100
Date: 2007-02-28T17:15:09+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2u649mp8c2.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: es48et$14so$1@f04n12.cac.psu.edu
"Bob Spooner" <rls19@psu.edu> writes:
> "peter koch" <peter.koch.larsen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1172666017.141406.173400@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 28, 8:44 am, Keith Thompson <k...@mib.org> wrote:
>>> "peter koch" <peter.koch.lar...@gmail.com> writes:
>>> > On 26 Feb., 05:47, Hyman Rosen <hyro...@mail.com> wrote:
>>> >> It's being reported (Slashdot, via CNN) that twelve of these
>>> >> planes had their navigation and communications completely shut
>>> >> down as they crossed the international date line while flying
>>> >> from Hawaii to Japan. I believe much of the plane's software
>>> >> is in Ada, but I have no details as to what caused the error.
>>>
>>> > It surprises me that the software had problems dealing with this
>>> > problem in the first place. Why anyone uses "calender time" for
>>> > anything but display purposes is simply beyond my comprehension.
>>>
>>> I'm only guessing, but I doubt that the error was caused by using
>>> local time. My suspicion is that the error occurred not when crossing
>>> the International Date Line (which is crooked, as you can see on a
>>> map), but when crossing the 180th meridian, when the longitude jumped
>>> from 179.909 to -179.990.
>>>
>>> I vaguely remember a similar problem with some air traffic control
>>> software that was developed in the US, but wouldn't work in the UK,
>>> because it couldn't handle a sign change in longitude.
>>>
>> Yes - that makes far more sense. I had a very difficult time (!)
>> believe that the problem had anything to do with timezones.
>>
>> /Peter
>>
> If the navigation computer was calculating velocity as a change in position
> with respect to time and the time changed by a large (possibly negative)
> amount, something could have gotten out of range and caused a software
> crash. Bob
On would think that internal time keeping would always done in GMT or
with a counter with a fixed offset to GMT, esp. since GPS works with
GMT anyway.
Regards -- Markus
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-26 4:47 F-22 Raptor software problem Hyman Rosen
2007-02-26 8:55 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2007-02-26 15:01 ` Aurele
2007-02-26 20:57 ` Simon Wright
2007-02-26 22:08 ` JPWoodruff
2007-02-27 0:15 ` Jeffrey Creem
2007-02-27 14:33 ` Bob Spooner
2007-02-28 4:05 ` Aurele
2007-02-28 15:47 ` Bob Spooner
2007-02-28 5:09 ` JPWoodruff
2007-02-26 23:55 ` peter koch
2007-02-27 0:22 ` Gene
2007-02-28 7:44 ` Keith Thompson
2007-02-28 12:33 ` peter koch
2007-02-28 15:51 ` Bob Spooner
2007-02-28 16:15 ` Markus E Leypold [this message]
2007-02-28 19:49 ` Simon Wright
2007-02-28 20:31 ` Keith Thompson
2007-02-28 20:22 ` Keith Thompson
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