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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:13:56 +0200
Date: 2012-05-10T09:13:56+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2nfobsn64ovj$.yo1ugseoo72.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: op.wd2h96p9ule2fv@douda-yannick

On Thu, 10 May 2012 02:57:32 +0200, Yannick Duch�ne (Hibou57) wrote:

> Le Wed, 09 May 2012 16:09:10 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov  
> <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> a �crit:
> 
>> On Wed, 09 May 2012 15:56:32 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote:
>>
>>> On 09.05.12 15:00, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 09 May 2012 07:06:06 -0500, Nasser M. Abbasi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think XML is not good for math.
>>>>
>>>> XML is not good for anything.  I don't care about Web but in automation it
>>>> becomes a growing problem that precious bandwidth and human resources  
>>>> are spent on chewing XML mess.
>>>
>>> Writing math papers and making data traveling automation networks
>>> seem rather different use cases.
>>
>> Yes, though XML is usually advocated as a universal solution for
>> everything.
> 
> Not for everything: for when a standard structured serialization is really  
> better (and that's often the case).

I don't know what "standard structured serialization" is. But XML is bad
for serialization (if persistence meant). It is awful to describe
structures (because it lacks means to handle dependencies, referential
semantics, decomposition means, whatever abstraction power, types, semantic
checks present in any language since FORTRAN IV etc. As a "language" it is
really retarded.)

> Then, XML does not came alone, it comes with XSLT, XPath, XQuery and  
> XProc,

Which also reveals much about its usability. You don't need any tools to
handle a *usable* thing.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-10  7:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-29 15:22 Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format Stephen Leake
2012-04-30  6:06 ` Jerrid Kimball
2012-05-01  3:19   ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-01  6:06     ` Thomas Løcke
2012-05-01  9:56       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-03 15:26       ` J Kimball
2012-05-03 14:26     ` [OT] CSS max-width (Was: Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-05-03 15:52       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-03 22:34         ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-03 15:23     ` Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format Jerrid Kimball
2012-05-03 23:25       ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-04  1:28         ` BrianG
2012-05-09 11:17         ` Oliver Kleinke
2012-05-09 12:06           ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-05-09 13:00             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-09 13:56               ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-05-09 14:09                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-09 14:52                   ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-05-09 16:33                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-05-09 16:39                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-09 16:51                   ` Jerrid Kimball
2012-05-09 17:21                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-09 19:53                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-05-10 10:15                         ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-09 19:59                     ` Simon Wright
2012-05-10  1:42                     ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-10  7:21                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-10  7:35                         ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-05-10  9:43                           ` Simon Wright
2012-05-10 10:44                           ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-05-10 13:19                             ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-05-11 11:49                               ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-11 15:06                                 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-05-10 15:05                           ` Manuel Collado
2012-05-10 15:42                             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-10 22:15                               ` Manuel Collado
2012-05-11  1:16                                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-11 10:47                                   ` Manuel Collado
2012-05-11 11:35                                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-12  0:52                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-14 11:03                                       ` Manuel Collado
2012-05-12 10:04                                     ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-14 11:07                                       ` Manuel Collado
2012-05-11 11:47                           ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-11 14:42                             ` Simon Wright
2012-05-12 10:52                               ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-12  0:59                             ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-10 13:47                       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-11 11:57                         ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-11 12:55                           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-11 13:43                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-05-12  0:46                       ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-10  0:57                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-10  7:13                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2012-05-10 13:37                       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-10 15:02                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-10 15:32                           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-10 15:58                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-11  2:23                           ` Oliver Kleinke
2012-05-10  1:32           ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-10  1:54           ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-11  2:36             ` Oliver Kleinke
2012-05-12  1:08               ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-10 10:11           ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-11  2:07             ` Oliver Kleinke
2012-05-11  2:44               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-11  2:50                 ` Oliver Kleinke
2012-05-11  7:51                 ` Suggestion for RM HTML formatter extension (Was: Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-05-11 10:03                   ` Martin
2012-05-11 15:32                   ` Suggestion for RM HTML formatter extension Simon Wright
2012-05-11 15:53                     ` Simon Wright
2012-05-11 21:01                       ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-05-11 21:04                       ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-05-11 21:59                     ` Simon Wright
2012-05-12 10:48                       ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-12 12:34                         ` Simon Wright
2012-05-14 11:36                     ` Manuel Collado
2012-05-14 16:20                       ` Simon Wright
2012-05-15  7:02                       ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-15  8:54                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-05-12 10:37                 ` Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format Stephen Leake
2012-05-12  1:43               ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-12 10:33               ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-19  3:58               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-11 11:59             ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-01 11:51   ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-03 15:03     ` Jerrid Kimball
2012-05-03 21:52       ` Manuel Collado
2012-05-03 22:43         ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-04  7:58       ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-05 14:23         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-06 16:13           ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-06 16:27             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-08  0:54             ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-03 15:56 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-03 22:40   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-02-23 20:46 ` Oliver Kellogg
2013-02-24 19:06   ` Stephen Leake
2013-02-25 23:27     ` Randy Brukardt
2013-02-26  4:05       ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2013-02-26 13:23         ` Robert A Duff
2013-02-26 19:49           ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2013-02-26 22:04           ` Randy Brukardt
2013-04-02 17:50       ` M. Strobel
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