From: David Botton <david@botton.com>
Subject: Re: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 04:31:40 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2014-11-12T04:31:40-08:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2c66b776-777b-4530-a1a3-21337cefab85@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1415791954.7960.59.camel@obry.net>
> But then if the FSF compiler is used to create Open Source software
> that's fine. But then again, what's wrong with the GPL one? At the end
> you have an Open Source software :)
Because for businesses that doesn't work. Most people like me who are happy to write and share GMGPL and GPL software are often making a living for companies that _WILL NOT_ allow GPL executables with their corporate IP mixed in.
So a GPL compiler _kills_ Ada use for everyone but those developing OS tools or other such projects.
We want to advocate Ada and the GPL on the runtime _HURTS_ it not helps it.
> I understand that GNAT FSF can be used for closed sources software, but
> again how many they are?
More than you can ever imagine. People are not posting their closed source use, but I can tell you that I've written more closed source Ada than public and so have most here.
> I'm not saying there is nothing, but as I said
> in my first post the GPL do cover the most majority of Ada projects
> needs.
That is _COMPLETELY_ false information and the same ridiculous argument I've heard from AdaCore trying to justify their shortsighted and harmful decision to GPL Virus the compiler and make it Shareware. They turned GNAT in to a toy.
The _reality_ is that the GPL compiler killed tons of __GPL__ projects and even more GMGPL projects.
Add to that the the GPL compiler has completely closed down all advocacy of Ada for the business world.
I'm going to make sure that changes :) hopefully with AdaCore, but even if without.
David Botton
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2014-11-10 9:30 What exactly is the licensing situation with Gnat? Hubert
2014-11-10 10:03 ` Markus Schöpflin
2014-11-10 10:38 ` What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT? Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-11-10 11:09 ` Hubert
2014-11-10 11:19 ` Markus Schöpflin
2014-11-10 15:45 ` David Botton
2014-11-11 0:09 ` Hubert
2014-11-11 10:54 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-11 11:05 ` Hubert
2014-11-11 13:37 ` john
2014-11-11 22:52 ` Hubert
2014-11-11 23:10 ` David Botton
2014-11-11 23:25 ` Alan Jump
2014-11-12 0:50 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 1:02 ` Simon Clubley
2014-11-12 7:09 ` Gour
2014-11-12 11:06 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 7:41 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-13 1:30 ` Simon Clubley
2014-11-12 1:15 ` Hubert
2014-11-12 1:24 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 1:33 ` Hubert
2014-11-12 7:13 ` Gour
2014-11-12 10:56 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 8:12 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-12 8:35 ` Hubert
2014-11-12 9:25 ` Mark Carroll
2014-11-12 9:37 ` Hubert
2014-11-12 10:31 ` jm.tarrasa
2014-11-12 10:43 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-11-12 10:44 ` Hubert
2014-11-12 12:06 ` Gour
2014-11-12 12:38 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 15:23 ` Gour
2014-11-12 16:30 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 13:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-12 22:53 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-12 23:21 ` David Botton
2014-11-13 1:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 8:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-13 21:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-14 8:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 22:24 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-14 22:43 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-11-15 9:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 0:37 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-18 9:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 4:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-14 5:12 ` David Botton
2014-11-14 6:13 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-14 8:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 22:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-15 9:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 9:40 ` Pascal Obry
2014-11-15 11:18 ` Tero Koskinen
2014-11-15 11:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 0:28 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-18 9:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 22:25 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-19 9:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-19 23:59 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-20 9:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-20 21:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-21 9:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-21 22:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-22 9:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 17:32 ` Florian Weimer
2014-11-15 19:58 ` 'Image (was: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-18 0:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-18 8:20 ` 'Image Björn Lundin
2014-11-18 22:29 ` 'Image Randy Brukardt
2014-11-19 13:46 ` 'Image (was: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) Brian Drummond
2014-11-19 14:21 ` 'Image G.B.
2014-11-20 13:32 ` 'Image Brian Drummond
2014-11-13 0:48 ` What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT? sbelmont700
2014-11-13 1:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 1:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 8:03 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-13 22:22 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 16:26 ` Tero Koskinen
2014-11-13 22:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 1:54 ` Hubert
2014-11-13 2:04 ` Hubert
2014-11-13 7:53 ` Luther Bogart
2014-11-13 7:58 ` Luther Bogart
2014-11-13 16:38 ` Tero Koskinen
2014-11-13 21:57 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 22:02 ` Mark Carroll
2014-11-13 22:43 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-11-14 1:36 ` Hubert
2014-11-14 4:45 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-14 5:24 ` Hubert
2014-11-14 8:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 9:02 ` Stan Mills
2014-11-14 10:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 10:38 ` Stan Mills
2014-11-14 12:57 ` Peter Chapin
2014-11-14 22:33 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-17 8:28 ` Stan Mills
2014-11-14 13:35 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 15:29 ` Things that OO programming lacks (was: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) G.B.
2014-11-14 16:32 ` Things that OO programming lacks Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 19:46 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-16 10:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-16 18:51 ` Shark8
2014-11-16 19:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 15:17 ` G.B.
2014-11-17 17:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 18:23 ` G.B.
2014-11-17 20:02 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-17 21:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 10:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-18 13:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 18:50 ` G.B.
2014-11-18 19:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 19:21 ` Shark8
2014-11-17 20:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-16 17:54 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-16 19:01 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-11-16 19:14 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-16 19:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-16 20:33 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-17 8:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 14:29 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-17 17:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 8:36 ` What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT? Stan Mills
2014-11-17 11:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 14:20 ` G.B.
2014-11-14 9:19 ` Hubert
2014-11-14 10:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 1:00 ` Hubert
2014-11-15 1:24 ` Hubert
2014-11-15 9:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 10:27 ` Hubert
2014-11-15 19:44 ` Robert A Duff
2014-11-15 7:22 ` Gour
2014-11-15 9:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 10:51 ` Gour
2014-11-15 11:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 12:41 ` Gour
2014-11-15 13:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 8:11 ` Stan Mills
2014-11-17 8:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 8:48 ` Stan Mills
2014-11-17 10:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-13 8:03 ` Pete Ballmer
2014-11-13 8:41 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-13 8:59 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-12 11:18 ` David Botton
2014-11-13 0:01 ` David Botton
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2014-11-12 11:15 ` David Botton
2014-11-13 23:56 ` David Botton
2014-11-14 7:50 ` community-based compiler (was Re: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) Gour
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2014-11-14 14:53 ` community-based compiler (was Re: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) Luke A. Guest
2014-11-14 14:57 ` David Botton
2014-11-14 16:16 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-11-14 16:34 ` David Botton
2014-11-14 16:42 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-11-16 19:30 ` community-based compiler Florian Weimer
2014-11-14 15:27 ` Gour
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2014-11-16 19:31 ` Florian Weimer
2014-11-14 16:03 ` community-based compiler (was Re: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) Tero Koskinen
2014-11-14 22:40 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-15 1:07 ` Luke A. Guest
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2014-11-16 19:29 ` Florian Weimer
2014-11-14 17:13 ` community-based compiler (was Re: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) Shark8
2014-11-14 18:55 ` David Botton
2014-11-14 20:53 ` Shark8
2014-11-14 21:07 ` Luke A. Guest
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2014-11-15 1:07 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-11-18 0:52 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-18 3:06 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-11-18 9:25 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-18 22:33 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-15 12:44 ` Brian Drummond
2014-11-15 22:47 ` Shark8
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2014-11-17 11:28 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-11-19 13:48 ` Brian Drummond
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2014-11-14 21:05 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-11-14 8:25 ` What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT? Pete Ballmer
2014-11-14 12:46 ` Peter Chapin
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2014-11-16 9:32 ` Pete Ballmer
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