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From: sampson@cod.NOSC.MIL (Charles H. Sampson)
Subject: Re: Pre-condition vs. Post-condition
Date: 19 Mar 91 20:38:57 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2938@cod.NOSC.MIL> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 311@nic.cerf.net

In article <311@nic.cerf.net> sss@nic.cerf.net (Marlene M. Eckert) writes:
>How about exceptions should be raised only in _EXCEPTIONAL_ 
>situations?  Reaching the end-of-file or trying to POP off an
>empty stack are NOT exceptional conditions.

     O. K., but that just pushes the issue off to deciding what the word
_exceptional_ means.  The definition I prefer to use is: "An exceptional
condition is one that occurs infrequently or unexpectedly."  (Not original,
but I forgot whom I stole it from.  I think it was John Barnes.)  When
teaching Ada, immediately after giving that definition I point out to the
students that it does not require all exceptional conditions to be handled
by exceptions.

     What's happening here is that we're in an area where a lot of design
decisions have to be made.  I'm not sure that there is a rule that can be
applied to all cases and I am sure that if there is one we haven't found
it yet.  Unlike Mike Feldman, I have no philosophical problem with using
End_error to detect end-of-file or stack underflow to determine that the
stack is now empty, both satisfying the _infrequent_ criterion.  (I doubt
that I would ever use the latter myself, but my reasons are more esthetic
than anything else.)  Before I would condemn these uses in any particular
situation, I would want to hear the reasons for them.

     This has been an interesting thread to follow as we grapple with
this problem.  I particularly appreciate the fact that very few dogmatic
positions have been put forward.

                              Charlie

  parent reply	other threads:[~1991-03-19 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1991-03-15  3:57 Pre-condition vs. Post-condition Chris M. Little
1991-03-15 19:07 ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-17 12:26   ` George C. Harrison, Norfolk State University
1991-03-18 15:04   ` Joe Hollingsworth
1991-03-18 19:51     ` Marlene M. Eckert
1991-03-19 19:07       ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-21  3:01         ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-21 16:34           ` Exception usage design issues (was: Pre-condition vs. Post-condition) John Goodenough
1991-03-21 18:40           ` Pre-condition vs. Post-condition Michael Feldman
1991-03-19 20:38       ` Charles H. Sampson [this message]
1991-03-21  3:06         ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-19 21:07       ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-19  7:38     ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-19 14:46       ` Joe Hollingsworth
1991-03-21  2:46         ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-21  5:12         ` Explicit vs implicit checks (was Pre-condition vs. Post-condition) Scott Carter
1991-03-22 15:18       ` Pre-condition vs. Post-condition Brad Balfour
1991-03-19 18:17   ` Mike Gilbert
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1991-03-18 15:47 "Norman H. Cohen"
1991-03-24 21:23 stt
1991-03-25 16:00 ` Arthur Evans
1991-03-25 17:05   ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-26  4:31     ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-26 10:21       ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1991-03-26 16:44         ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-26 22:03           ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1991-03-26 23:36             ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-27 21:34             ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-28  2:54               ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-29  3:28                 ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-27  3:12         ` Jim Showalter
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