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From: mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman)
Subject: Re: Pre-condition vs. Post-condition
Date: 21 Mar 91 18:40:24 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2907@sparko.gwu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jls.669524498@rutabaga

In article <jls.669524498@rutabaga> jls@rutabaga.Rational.COM (Jim Showalter) writes:
>>Some bit-fiddlers have argued that the latter is slightly more efficient,
>
>BIT FIDDLER!?!?!? BIT FIDDLER!?!?!?!?
>
>Stab me in the heart and TWIST THE KNIFE, why don't you?

Well, OK, you're not a bit fiddler. It's just that in discussing design-
oriented questions like pre- and post- conditions, appropriate design 
with exceptions, and the like, too many folks STILL jump too quickly into
micro-efficiency matters and questions of how compilers implement exceptions.
This gives me a sense of deja-vu from the early days of structured
programming etc., when people argued that go-to's were faster
than loops and procedures, and self-modifying code was even faster than that.
So what? We all know that computers and compilers both get faster over time.

Actually, I wrote the "bit fiddler" comment even before I read your note,
which was several notes later in my news reader. I chuckled when I read
your note, because I knew SOMEONE would raise the issue.

Performance issues are NOT unimportant - even this fuzzyheaded professor
would agree with that - but I think discussions of marginal gains or losses
in efficiency, traded off against more important design matters, just
muddy the waters. 

Sorry, Jim .. I didn't even know your note was out there...nothing personal.

Mike

  parent reply	other threads:[~1991-03-21 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1991-03-15  3:57 Pre-condition vs. Post-condition Chris M. Little
1991-03-15 19:07 ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-17 12:26   ` George C. Harrison, Norfolk State University
1991-03-18 15:04   ` Joe Hollingsworth
1991-03-18 19:51     ` Marlene M. Eckert
1991-03-19 19:07       ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-21  3:01         ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-21 16:34           ` Exception usage design issues (was: Pre-condition vs. Post-condition) John Goodenough
1991-03-21 18:40           ` Michael Feldman [this message]
1991-03-19 20:38       ` Pre-condition vs. Post-condition Charles H. Sampson
1991-03-21  3:06         ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-19 21:07       ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-19  7:38     ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-19 14:46       ` Joe Hollingsworth
1991-03-21  2:46         ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-21  5:12         ` Explicit vs implicit checks (was Pre-condition vs. Post-condition) Scott Carter
1991-03-22 15:18       ` Pre-condition vs. Post-condition Brad Balfour
1991-03-19 18:17   ` Mike Gilbert
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1991-03-18 15:47 "Norman H. Cohen"
1991-03-24 21:23 stt
1991-03-25 16:00 ` Arthur Evans
1991-03-25 17:05   ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-26  4:31     ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-26 10:21       ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1991-03-26 16:44         ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-26 22:03           ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1991-03-26 23:36             ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-27 21:34             ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-28  2:54               ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-29  3:28                 ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-27  3:12         ` Jim Showalter
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