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From: steve@gondor.psu.edu.UUCP
Subject: Re: "C" vrs ADA
Date: Fri, 21-Aug-87 09:00:15 EDT	[thread overview]
Date: Fri Aug 21 09:00:15 1987
Message-ID: <2862@psuvax1.psu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 253@etn-rad.UUCP

In article <253@etn-rad.UUCP> jru@etn-rad.UUCP (0000-John Unekis) writes:

>	                                                          It was a
>	  moderately structured language , with a syntax that was similar
>	  to the UNIX c shell (or vice versa).

Vice versa, or so BSD claims.  If you ask me, however, I can't see much
of a connection between csh and C.  ...just an opinion.

>
>	  Because UNIX does not handle real-time applications (such as
>	  interrupt handling) very well,

Here I agree, but not because of what unix is, but how unix is implimented.
Interrupts are not all that clumsy to deal with in unix, and there
is actually even some structure and cleanliness here, but the process
structure of the unix kernal isn't.  A context switch is made a bit messy
by the fact that a process's having to modes: user mode and kernal mode.
An interrupt does not switch the context like it could, making the
process in kernal mode make the decision.  I can imagine a UNIX that
would handle interrupts efficiently, but the internals would be different.

>	                                                       As long as
>	  computers remain basically Von Neuman processors, no language is
>	  going to offer any advantages in the real world to a language
>	  like COBOL. No business is going to go through the 3 to 5 years
>	  effort of retraining and converting of existing code just to
>	  satisfy the dogmatic prejudices of computer-science weenies.

Lets hear it for Hypercubes and connection machines!
Also, being a computer-science weenie, I would like to say that the idea
is not to break people of the COBOL blues, but to start the new sites off
in the right direction!  (P.S.  I read in SIGOPS recently about some neat
unix [they call it AIX] stuff IBM is doing in Texas.

>	                                                       Therefore if
>	  you want a career in military/aerospace, go for ADA.

Well, I guess so.  I'm not qualified to judge.  I suppose ADA wouldn't
hurt your career.


--Steve

psuvax1!{ihnp4, moby!nssc}!journey!steve

  parent reply	other threads:[~1987-08-21 13:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1987-08-17 21:36 "C" vrs ADA Glen Harman
1987-08-18 14:49 ` spf
1987-08-19 17:03   ` "C" AND Ada Eugene Miya N.
1987-08-20  1:52     ` Richard Harter
1987-08-20 17:29       ` "C" AND Ada (epigram) David Palmer
1987-08-21  9:09       ` "C" AND Ada Kent Paul Dolan
1987-08-19 20:45   ` "C" vrs ADA ark
1987-08-20 20:10     ` Stephen 2. Williams
1987-08-21  0:19     ` Jef Poskanzer
1987-08-21  9:15     ` Webber
1987-08-21  1:04   ` R.A. Agnew
1987-08-21 15:27     ` spf
1987-08-23  0:35     ` Henry Spencer
1987-08-23 18:07       ` wyatt
1987-08-25 17:55         ` John Unekis
1987-08-25 18:57       ` David C. Albrecht
1987-08-27 16:32         ` Henry Spencer
1987-08-28 16:31           ` Renu Raman, Sun Microsystems
1987-08-28 15:51         ` Peter da Silva
1987-08-30  1:05           ` Rahul Dhesi
1987-08-31 13:55             ` sns
1987-09-04 16:51             ` VAX/VMS C Jim Sullivan
1987-08-18 15:17 ` "C" vrs ADA G.Gleason
1987-08-18 18:09 ` John Unekis
1987-08-21 12:07   ` Mr. Patrick J. Kelly Jr. GS-13
1987-08-21 13:00   ` steve [this message]
1987-08-21 14:04   ` Stefan M. Vorkoetter
1987-08-22 23:31     ` COBOL vs "C" vs ADA neubauer
1987-08-24 23:11       ` Dave Levenson
1987-08-25 19:18         ` FORTRAN vs COBOL vs Pascal vs C " Stephen the Greatest
1987-08-23 13:13     ` COBOL vrs Ada (was: Re: "C" vrs ADA) Kent Paul Dolan
1987-08-21 14:17   ` "C" vrs ADA M.P.Lindner
1987-08-21 15:10   ` Dave Haynie
1987-08-21 16:07   ` crowl
1987-08-22  2:44     ` hitchens
1987-08-27 18:53       ` jym
1987-08-22 14:31     ` Roy Smith
1987-08-26 16:17     ` Kurt Hoyt
1987-08-23  0:33   ` Henry Spencer
1987-08-18 18:43 ` Dave Haynie
1987-08-22 21:09   ` Eric Beser sys admin
1987-08-25 16:35     ` David Palmer
1987-08-26 14:21       ` spf
1987-08-28  0:49       ` peter
1987-09-03 20:03         ` R.A. Agnew
1987-08-26  3:38     ` Doug Gwyn 
1987-08-26 19:32       ` Charles Simmons
1987-08-26  9:25     ` Randell Jesup
1987-08-26 15:40     ` M.P.Lindner
1987-08-27 17:44       ` Jeff Bartlett
1987-08-31 17:53         ` mpl
1987-09-01 22:03           ` Barry Margolin
1987-09-02  0:32       ` eric
1987-08-26 18:30     ` Dave Haynie
1987-08-29  6:25     ` Henry Spencer
1987-09-01 19:02 ` Jacob Gore
1987-09-02 14:09 ` stt
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1987-08-25 20:44 blackje%sungod.tcpip
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1987-08-28 12:33 ` kelly
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