alternatives

alternatives

[Peter Hermann]

The article "Making Java Real" By Michael Barr
Embedded Systems Programming, march 2002, page 9
(02/28/02, 12:24:27 PM EDT)
http://www.embedded.com/story/OEG20020221S0086

says:
"... the Department of Defense, which was seeking alternatives to Ada ..."

Who is   The DoD  , please ?

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Re: alternatives

[John McCabe]

On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:03:50 +0000 (UTC), Peter Hermann
<ica2ph@iris16.csv.ica.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote:

>says:
>"... the Department of Defense, which was seeking alternatives to Ada ..."
>
>Who is   The DoD  , please ?

Do you mean who is The Department of Defense?

Re: alternatives

[Pat Rogers]

"John McCabe" <john.mccabe@emrad.ns.com> wrote in message
news:3c91bdb8.1496401@news.demon.co.uk...
> On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:03:50 +0000 (UTC), Peter Hermann
> <ica2ph@iris16.csv.ica.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote:
>
> >says:
> >"... the Department of Defense, which was seeking alternatives to Ada ..."
> >
> >Who is   The DoD  , please ?
>
> Do you mean who is The Department of Defense?

I think Peter is falling victim to the same malady I suffer on newsgroups:
excessive subtlety.

I suspect he means that it is meaningless to say the DoD was seeking something,
for various reasons:

1) The DoD does not act as a whole, with a consistent approach or goal (This
will surprise no one familiar with Ada)

2) Only people can seek something (in this context)

3) Some people in the DoD like and use Ada cost-effectively

4) Without identifying who, in one form or another,  is "seeking alternatives to
Ada", the author is not saying anything worth the time to read.

That's how I took it, anyway, and I agreed.

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Re: alternatives

[Wes Groleau]

> > >"... the Department of Defense, which was seeking alternatives to Ada ..."
> > >
> > >Who is   The DoD  , please ?
> >
> > Do you mean who is The Department of Defense?
> 
> 1) The DoD does not act as a whole, with a consistent approach or goal (This
> will surprise no one familiar with Ada)

However, if one insists on pretending the DoD
is a coherent unit, the statement would be false.

The "DoD" is NOT "seeking alternatives" to Ada.

The "DoD" is merely acknowledging that the
language lemmings can't be stopped and are
merely trying to prevent them from carrying
the USA's safety into the sea with them.

-- 
Wes Groleau
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~wgroleau

Re: alternatives

[Mike Silva]

Peter Hermann <ica2ph@iris16.csv.ica.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote in message news:<a6qak6$ark$1@news.uni-stuttgart.de>...
> The article "Making Java Real" By Michael Barr
> Embedded Systems Programming, march 2002, page 9
> (02/28/02, 12:24:27 PM EDT)
> http://www.embedded.com/story/OEG20020221S0086
> 
> says:
> "... the Department of Defense, which was seeking alternatives to Ada ..."

This is so brilliant!  Now all those out-of-work e-commerce and web
programmers can start writing safety-critical hard realtime code for
DoD!  Well, maybe with just a -little- training...

Some days I'm just embarrassed at our industry.

Mike