From: mjsilva697@earthlink.net (Mike Silva)
Subject: Re: Have you ever had a bug caused by...
Date: 20 Oct 2001 18:09:23 -0700
Date: 2001-10-21T01:09:23+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <27085883.0110201709.4b4047b2@posting.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3BD1CA15.6492D999@linuxchip.demon.co.uk
Dr Adrian Wrigley <amtw@linuxchip.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<3BD1CA15.6492D999@linuxchip.demon.co.uk>...
> Mike Silva wrote:
> > Have you ever had a bug caused by accessing off the end of an array?
> >...
> > Have you ever had a bug caused by a variable getting set to a value
> > outside its designed range?
>
> These are occasionally the *cause* of a bug. But more often they
> are the *effect* of a bug. (Maybe it's just semantics, but I
> think of some items on the list as the result of bugs, not the cause)
>
> In C, execution problems can arise due to a bug, and things collapse
> much later, leading to much confusion and wasted time.
>
> In Ada, execution usually fails much earlier because of range checking,
> leading the programmer to focus on the relevant part of the code.
> This proximity of cause and effect is a big help debugging Ada.
I agree that some of the list items are the result, not the cause, of
a bug; but as you say, Ada will help by screaming bloody murder much
more quickly. I was taking some liberties with the language -- maybe
somebody can think of a more accurate but still snappy formulation.
Mike
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Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-10-20 1:14 Have you ever had a bug caused by Mike Silva
2001-10-20 1:44 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-20 2:12 ` James Rogers
2001-10-20 9:15 ` Robert*
2001-10-20 11:20 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-10-20 11:30 ` Matthew Woodcraft
2001-10-20 12:39 ` Robert*
2001-10-20 13:09 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-10-20 21:21 ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-22 15:58 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-20 19:07 ` Dr Adrian Wrigley
2001-10-21 1:09 ` Mike Silva [this message]
2001-10-21 12:05 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-22 14:48 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-22 17:03 ` Martin Dowie
2001-10-22 17:22 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-23 6:13 ` Mike Silva
2001-10-22 21:49 ` David Bolen
2001-10-22 22:14 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-23 0:52 ` Robert*
2001-10-23 13:30 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-25 9:45 ` John English
2001-10-25 15:23 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-25 18:17 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-25 15:36 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-25 16:09 ` Simon Wright
2001-10-25 2:16 ` David Bolen
2001-10-23 6:26 ` Mike Silva
2001-10-23 9:40 ` mike
2001-10-23 10:09 ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-23 13:48 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-23 15:45 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-23 17:08 ` Marin David Condic
2001-12-04 11:09 ` Harri J Haataja
2001-10-24 12:44 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-10-24 18:55 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-24 19:34 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-26 4:18 ` (Off topic:) Quality Anders Wirzenius
2001-10-25 9:36 ` Have you ever had a bug caused by John English
2001-10-25 15:41 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-25 17:57 ` Have you ever had a bug OOPS Wes Groleau
2001-11-13 2:07 ` David Thompson
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