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From: eugene@pioneer.arpa (Eugene Miya N.)
Subject: Re: "C" AND Ada
Date: Wed, 19-Aug-87 13:03:34 EDT	[thread overview]
Date: Wed Aug 19 13:03:34 1987
Message-ID: <2537@ames.arpa> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 12513@clyde.ATT.COM

>In article <1065@vu-vlsi.UUCP> harman@vu-vlsi.UUCP (Glen Harman) writes:
>>	... discussion about Ada and C for aeroSPACE ...
>
In article <12513@clyde.ATT.COM> spf@moss.UUCP (Steve Frysinger) says:
>Learn them both.

I hate these cross-referenced posting, but I recognize this as a
vocational question not just a technical question.  I also recognize
that few people who are really using Ada have responded.  I sent Glen
mail, but I realize others will ignore it.

First, vocation, I agree with Steve: learn both, or the ideas of both.
What the Glens of the world have to realize is that companies don't hire
you just because you know C or Ada, they hire you because you are
supposed to be bright and flexible (gleem!).  The world is trending
toward multi-lingual programming environments: using many languages to
solve problems [I'm even learning Icon now].  That is the point.  No
single language will solve all your problems, they are not designed that
way.

Second, policy. This is the real reason why I wanted to post this.
In the case of the Space Station (note caps), the word very high is any
software developer writing for the Station MUST use Ada.  Recently, the
AI groups in NASA had this dropped on them: no LISP (for Station).  None
what so ever.  [I won't debate the intelligence of this decision.]
Control is tight.  This does not mean C won't fly on some self-contained
packages, but it does set the tone (from pre-flight reviews) of the
main Station software.  This in turn affects other projects (excepting
certain HAL/S based projects like Shuttle).

If you want to work in aerospace (military or not), you can't ignore Ada.
But learn other languages and be flexible.

From the Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers:

--eugene miya
  NASA Ames Research Center
  eugene@ames-aurora.ARPA
  "You trust the `reply' command with all those different mailers out there?"
  "Send mail, avoid follow-ups.  If enough, I'll summarize."
  {hplabs,hao,ihnp4,decwrl,allegra,tektronix,menlo70}!ames!aurora!eugene

  reply	other threads:[~1987-08-19 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1987-08-17 21:36 "C" vrs ADA Glen Harman
1987-08-18 14:49 ` spf
1987-08-19 17:03   ` Eugene Miya N. [this message]
1987-08-20  1:52     ` "C" AND Ada Richard Harter
1987-08-20 17:29       ` "C" AND Ada (epigram) David Palmer
1987-08-21  9:09       ` "C" AND Ada Kent Paul Dolan
1987-08-19 20:45   ` "C" vrs ADA ark
1987-08-20 20:10     ` Stephen 2. Williams
1987-08-21  0:19     ` Jef Poskanzer
1987-08-21  9:15     ` Webber
1987-08-21  1:04   ` R.A. Agnew
1987-08-21 15:27     ` spf
1987-08-23  0:35     ` Henry Spencer
1987-08-23 18:07       ` wyatt
1987-08-25 17:55         ` John Unekis
1987-08-25 18:57       ` David C. Albrecht
1987-08-27 16:32         ` Henry Spencer
1987-08-28 16:31           ` Renu Raman, Sun Microsystems
1987-08-28 15:51         ` Peter da Silva
1987-08-30  1:05           ` Rahul Dhesi
1987-08-31 13:55             ` sns
1987-09-04 16:51             ` VAX/VMS C Jim Sullivan
1987-08-18 15:17 ` "C" vrs ADA G.Gleason
1987-08-18 18:09 ` John Unekis
1987-08-21 12:07   ` Mr. Patrick J. Kelly Jr. GS-13
1987-08-21 13:00   ` steve
1987-08-21 14:04   ` Stefan M. Vorkoetter
1987-08-22 23:31     ` COBOL vs "C" vs ADA neubauer
1987-08-24 23:11       ` Dave Levenson
1987-08-25 19:18         ` FORTRAN vs COBOL vs Pascal vs C " Stephen the Greatest
1987-08-23 13:13     ` COBOL vrs Ada (was: Re: "C" vrs ADA) Kent Paul Dolan
1987-08-21 14:17   ` "C" vrs ADA M.P.Lindner
1987-08-21 15:10   ` Dave Haynie
1987-08-21 16:07   ` crowl
1987-08-22  2:44     ` hitchens
1987-08-27 18:53       ` jym
1987-08-22 14:31     ` Roy Smith
1987-08-26 16:17     ` Kurt Hoyt
1987-08-23  0:33   ` Henry Spencer
1987-08-18 18:43 ` Dave Haynie
1987-08-22 21:09   ` Eric Beser sys admin
1987-08-25 16:35     ` David Palmer
1987-08-26 14:21       ` spf
1987-08-28  0:49       ` peter
1987-09-03 20:03         ` R.A. Agnew
1987-08-26  3:38     ` Doug Gwyn 
1987-08-26 19:32       ` Charles Simmons
1987-08-26  9:25     ` Randell Jesup
1987-08-26 15:40     ` M.P.Lindner
1987-08-27 17:44       ` Jeff Bartlett
1987-08-31 17:53         ` mpl
1987-09-01 22:03           ` Barry Margolin
1987-09-02  0:32       ` eric
1987-08-26 18:30     ` Dave Haynie
1987-08-29  6:25     ` Henry Spencer
1987-09-01 19:02 ` Jacob Gore
1987-09-02 14:09 ` stt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1987-08-21 12:01 "C" and Ada VAXID1::VAXID1::MRGATE::"A1::TUFFS1"@atc.alcoa.COM
1987-08-25 20:42 "C" AND Ada blackje%sungod.tcpip
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