From: "pascal.obry@gmail.com" <pascal.obry@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: AWS Coding Styles (and about boring plain-linear text files in the end)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 02:23:12 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2011-01-17T02:23:12-08:00 [thread overview]
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Yannick,
> In “3.5 Comments” :
>
> > The only exception to this rule (i.e. one space is
> > tolerated) is when the comment ends with --
>
> Q: Why a comment could ends with “--” ? What could this mean ?
File header (boxed style comment).
> In “3.5 Comments” :
>
> > Comments describing a subprogram spec should specifically
> > mention the formal argument names. General rule: write a
> > comment that does not depend on the names of things.
>
> Q: I am afraid I did not understood this one, as it seems
> ambiguous to me. How to refer to formal argument names
> without refering to the names of things ? Or else, are
> does “names of things” refer to in this context ?
Instead of saying:
procedure Call (Filename : String);
-- The name of the file should be an absolute name
Say:
procedure Call (Filename : String);
-- Filename must be an abosulute name
> In “4 Declarations and Types” :
>
> > Declarations should be grouped in a logical order.
>
> Q: What about circular dependencies ? I use to think
> about the same rule for myself, but oftenly failed
> due to circular dependencies matters (i.e. when there
> is iterative evaluation as an example).
I would say that "logical" here cover this case. There is now way
around
that anyway.
> In “4 Declarations and Types” :
>
> > All local subprograms in a subprogram or package body
> > should be declared before the first local subprogram
> > body.
>
> Q: Why this requirement of a declaration for body's and
> procedure's local subprograms ? Is it to avoid the
> need to order subprogram bodies with respect to their
> dependencies to each others ? (if so, this would
> be contradictory with previous quote).
First this force having a spec and the spec must be commented.
Second it is better to group all specs together for maintenance
and code review. You have all local subprograms in a single
place.
> In “6.2 If Statements” :
>
> > Complex conditions in if-statements are indented two
> > characters
>
> Q: I've already seen about this convention in some other
> places, while I could never understand it. Not that I
> disagree, just want to know, because this may mean
> there is something relevant I've never though about.
> Is that to shorten line length ? Is that to just have
> a different indent than the one which come for “when”
> parts of “case” statements ?
No strong opinion on this one. 2 spaces is shorter than 3 sure, but
as for many convention it is just a convention. Note that this is
what Emacs and GPS does, so helpful I would say.
> Not questions now, personal talks:
>
> In “8 Packages and Visibility Rules” :
>
> > Do not with two times the same unit, always use the
> > deepest child unit to with. For example do not write:
> > with Ada.Strings;
> > with Ada.Strings.Unbounded;
> > but the equivalent form:
> with Ada.Strings.Unbounded;
>
> I always do the opposite. I feel it is clearer if I
> refer to the parent unit. If I don't, I do not withed
> the parent unit (i.e. I state something about usage in
> the withed declarations).
Fine, just another convention.
> In “9 Packages and Visibility Rules” :
>
> > It is good to group the context clauses in 3 parts.
> > The Ada standard clauses, the components from other
> > projects and then the project's clauses. In each
> > group it is required to sort the clauses by alphabetical
> > order.
>
> Adding some grouping by roles is also nice when the context
> clause may be long (by the way, the grouping presented in
> this design guide-lines is compliant with a grouping by
> roles).
Ok.
> Ah, a big one deal for me this one… (the one which follows)
>
> In “3.1 Character Set and Separators” :
>
> > A line should never be longer than 79 characters,
> > not counting the line separator.
>
> I fully agree with this is some sense (just that I use 78
> characters instead of 79). But I agree only at the display
> side, not at the source side. Let me explain
One of the most important points are:
1. readability, it is hard to read too long line
2. maintainability, code review as it is almost impossible to read
a diff for too long lines.
> P.S. Thanks for the “Short comments that fit on a single line are NOT
> ended with a period.” in “3.5 Comment” : I oftenly had the same question
> for myself, and could never make a final decision about it. If you decided
> and make it a standard, well, let's go for this one and follow it.
This is also GNAT standard.
> P.P.S. No, no, I am not to work on AWS source, I was just reading it
> driven by curiosity. :p
:)
Pascal.
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2011-01-17 5:07 AWS Coding Styles (and about boring plain-linear text files in the end) Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-17 5:18 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-21 4:06 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-17 6:43 ` Shark8
2011-01-17 10:22 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-17 10:23 ` pascal.obry [this message]
2011-01-17 10:49 ` Simon Wright
2011-01-17 10:54 ` pascal.obry
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2011-01-18 19:47 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-01-18 20:44 ` Florian Weimer
2011-01-18 21:03 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-01-18 22:16 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-19 6:58 ` Simon Wright
2011-01-19 9:15 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-19 20:16 ` Simon Wright
2011-01-19 22:42 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-01-19 22:21 ` Florian Weimer
2011-01-20 1:52 ` Stephen Leake
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2011-01-18 21:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-18 22:13 ` Randy Brukardt
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2011-01-19 7:00 ` J-P. Rosen
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2011-01-19 11:42 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
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2011-01-19 23:34 ` Georg Bauhaus
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2011-03-19 1:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-03-16 19:59 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
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2011-01-18 0:45 ` Adam Beneschan
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2011-01-19 11:53 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
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2011-01-18 8:50 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-18 14:20 ` sjw
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2011-01-18 1:43 ` Bill Findlay
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2011-01-18 15:45 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-01-18 22:03 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-19 7:19 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-01-19 9:07 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-19 13:31 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-01-20 1:53 ` Stephen Leake
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