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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Making money on open source, if not by selling _support_, then how?
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:59:50 +0200
Date: 2006-04-16T19:59:44+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2429o5my9o4z.lue7cfjzu0nd$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1145192585.9496.29.camel@localhost.localdomain

On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:03:05 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote:

> On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 12:53 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>>  this is easily verifiable by observing growth
>>> rate of publically available open source software.
>> 
>> ... which bears all signs of pop-culture, by the way. Public involvement
>> destroys quality and even common sense. Turn MTV on, if you want an
>> example. Openness /= direct democracy.
> 
> pop-culture /= Public involvement,

Public involvement is the driving force behind the pop-culture.

> and open source does
> not imply absence of project rules. 
> Open source software does not by itself define how a project
> is run, obviously.

Exactly

>> They could become managers,
>> advocates instead.
> 
> Could you elaborate a bit how they could do this, and why they
> would want to do this?

Why shouldn't they? People adapt quickly. Their goals are formed by the
society. There always will be a pair of idiots working on compilers in
their spare time, but you cannot rely on exceptions.

>> The attitude "it is no matter how much we pay them, because they would do
>> the work anyway" is deeply rooted in both systems. This is why quality
>> suffers.
> 
> OK, some people want to maintain the impression that their high
> pay is justified. I'm not blaming them. But on which facts could we
> build a hypothesis that high wages guarantee high quality?

Not wages, but differentiation of according to individual contribution.

> Conversely, can you provide evidence that lower wages warrant lower
> quality of software?

There are strong historical evidences that lack of differentiation leads to
lower quality. Former SU suffered this problem. Economics based slavery
did.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-16 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-01 13:47 Any way of persuading GNAT/GCC to implement a true overlay and not a pointer? Doobs
2006-04-01 14:33 ` Jeffrey Creem
2006-04-01 16:52   ` Doobs
2006-04-01 17:56     ` Martin Krischik
2006-04-01 18:04     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-01 17:08 ` Florian Weimer
2006-04-01 17:54   ` Doobs
2006-04-01 18:19     ` Doobs
2006-04-01 20:01       ` Jeffrey Creem
2006-04-01 21:33         ` Doobs
2006-04-03 12:25           ` Gerd
2006-04-01 20:57       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-04  1:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-10  1:42   ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-10 20:12     ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-11 13:54       ` Making money on open source, if not by selling _support_, then how? Marc A. Criley
2006-04-11 15:13         ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-11 16:22           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-11 17:56             ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-11 18:38               ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-12 13:59                 ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-12 14:39                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-15 19:33                     ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-12 17:07                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2006-04-13  3:16                     ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-11 19:59               ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-11 20:18                 ` Ed Falis
2006-04-12 14:10                 ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-12 20:57                   ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-15 20:37                     ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-18  0:24                       ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-18 16:02                         ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-12 19:27                 ` Martin Dowie
2006-04-12  8:32               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-12 11:23                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-12 15:34                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-12 17:11                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-12 19:37                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-12 21:56                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-13  9:17                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-13 14:18                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-14 10:01                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-14 12:55                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-15 10:13                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-15 18:07                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-13  2:58                 ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-13  9:17                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-15 21:17                     ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-16 10:53                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-16 13:03                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-16 17:59                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2006-04-16 20:53                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-17  9:16                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-19 20:38                                 ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-20 18:01                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-18  0:29                             ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-16 14:55                         ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-16 17:59                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-19 18:17                             ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-20 18:07                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-11 15:34         ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-12  2:59         ` Steve
2006-04-13  7:41         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2006-04-13 13:18           ` Marc A. Criley
2006-04-13 13:35             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-13 13:57             ` Making money on open source, if not by selling _support_, then Larry Kilgallen
2006-04-13 19:37               ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-13 21:02                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2006-04-14  2:49                   ` Justin Gombos
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