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From: mark.lorenzen@ofir.dk (Mark Lorenzen)
Subject: Re: Another article involving Ada on /.
Date: 29 Jun 2004 01:42:24 -0700
Date: 2004-06-29T01:42:24-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22d0b121.0406290042.2129744a@posting.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Cl4Ec.9698$3f2.9640@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com

Stan Milam <stmilam@swbell.net> wrote in message news:<Cl4Ec.9698$3f2.9640@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com>...
> Mark Lorenzen wrote:
> > For me "hacker" is a derogatory term.
> >
> 
> Goodness, I cannot count the times in 20 years of programming I've been 
> given a leviathian of a program(s) with no documentation and told to 
> "fix it or else...."  That means hacking through thousands of lines of 
> code to figure out what is going on.  I have made a career of hacking 
> through broken code to figure out what the heck it did and fix it.  I'm 
> proud of the term "hacker," but I would be leery of the term "cracker."
> 
> Regards,
> Stan Milam.

Having been exposed to the harsh realities of corporate life for only
a little over 5 years, I can not say that I have participated in many
projects. I have, however, tried once to hack through thousands of
lines of code in order to figure out what happened in a program, and
it wasn't fun at all. It was exceptionally boring.

For me, engineering (that includes software engineering) is about
*construction* with sound engineering methods. I love formal methods
and applicative languages as I think they represent sound engineering
tools. Sadly nobody uses them - therefore I am also hacking, like more
or less everybody else in software "engineering".

I am still so young (*cough*) that I have a na�ve hope, that things
will be better as the trade matures. But then, has it matured during
the last 20 years?

Regards,
- Mark Lorenzen



      reply	other threads:[~2004-06-29  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-28 19:48 Another article involving Ada on / Mark Lorenzen
2004-06-28 22:03 ` Xenos
2004-06-28 23:04   ` Björn Persson
2004-06-28 23:24   ` Mark Lorenzen
2004-06-28 23:43     ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-06-29  2:05     ` Ed Falis
2004-06-29  2:20     ` Stan Milam
2004-06-29  8:42       ` Mark Lorenzen [this message]
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