Re: A farewell to Ada

[bagpiper@pnet02.gryphon.com (Michael Hunter)]

I have noticed many people including MANY lines of text that they do not
comment on and that do not help context...can I please ask you to be nice to
your neighbors and please cut out unneeded text!!
ted@grebyn.com (Ted Holden) writes:
>>"...the use of Ada resulted in a 12% increase in productivity over
>>assembly language and 27% over C."  (That is the single most concise
>>condemnation of C I have ever seen... :-)
> 
>Again subjective, again rubbish.  I've heard too many people say that
>their projects simply could not be written in Ada at all, that the
>inherent clunk factor is just too great.
If the numbers above are hard stats then they are not rubbish!!
Since Ada is turing complete (as is every other modern HOL I can think of)
I wouldn't trust anyone saying that their project "could not be written in
Ada at all..." unless they were talking about some timing constraints that as
we have all said is implementation dependent.
>>There is no excuse for a 551K executable in a PC (pass 2 of Integrada).
>>Janus Ada requires >580K available to run, and rumor has it that the
>>Integrada compiler is a repackaged Janus compiler.
> 
>C users have no such problems.  Ever wonder why?
wow man...he is talking about two (maybe 1) compiler on one computer running
one OS...kindof small sample to be making those kind of comments.  And making
the commenbt that C users have no such problems is just basically wrong. 
Anybody who used pcc on a unix box with the reiser preprocessor with its
horrible peep hole optimizer knows what I means!!  Anyways the Ada environment
must contain many things that the c environments very often don't.  You should
probably be comparing the size of your Ada system against a comparable C
development system consisting of a compiler, lint, a safe malloc, and some
tasking package.
(and probably other pieces that I have forgotten!!)
> 
>>Have a nice day.
>>Marc
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>Have a nice day,
> 
>Ted Holden
>HTE
> 

Ted, do you ever do any design work?  If you ever happen to, you might learn a
bit about the difference between DESIGN and a SPECIFIC IMPLEMENTATION of a
certain design.

                Michael

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