From: Markus E Leypold <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de>
Subject: Re: What is wrong with Ada?
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:04:28 +0200
Date: 2007-04-12T15:04:28+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <21veg1agmb.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Xns991044830E503pchapinsovernet@198.186.192.137
"Peter C. Chapin" <pchapin@sover.net> writes:
> "kevin cline" <kevin.cline@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:1176332730.826176.286450@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
>
>> You are right about that. Other engineering disciplines apply
>> physical laws to the construction of human artifacts. There are no
>> physical laws governing software.
>
> I'm not sure that's entirely true. For example, it appears that some
> solvable problems are fundamentally intractable (the NP complete problems),
> and others are provably unsolvable in the general case (the undecidable
> problems). There is some kind of structure to computational problems and we
> didn't invent that structure. It is a fact of nature. Software engineers
> have to deal with these inherent properties of the universe to build
> software that solves real world problems. It sounds similar to "ordinary"
> engineering to me.
Also "ordinary engineering" does more than just apply phyisical
laws. I.e. there is the whole issue of stabdardization and how to use
standards properly. Project management also is -- more or less -- a
part of engineering.
Regards -- Markus
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2007-04-09 20:31 What is wrong with Ada? martinbishop
2007-04-10 1:14 ` Chip and Allie Orange
2007-04-10 8:32 ` gautier_niouzes
2007-04-10 18:21 ` Chip Orange
2007-04-10 1:15 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-04-10 9:02 ` Pascal Obry
2007-04-10 14:32 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-10 15:09 ` Pascal Obry
2007-04-10 15:39 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-10 16:12 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-04-10 17:31 ` Chad R. Meiners
2007-04-10 18:24 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-10 18:28 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-04-10 20:22 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-11 9:40 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-04-11 11:20 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-11 23:45 ` Brian May
2007-04-12 7:40 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-04-12 16:44 ` kevin cline
2007-04-12 17:32 ` Pascal Obry
2007-04-12 16:46 ` kevin cline
2007-04-12 17:35 ` Pascal Obry
2007-04-21 2:13 ` adaworks
2007-04-21 9:49 ` Simon Wright
2007-04-21 14:15 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-22 7:38 ` adaworks
2007-04-23 1:33 ` Brian May
2007-04-21 18:33 ` adaworks
2007-04-12 18:11 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-16 14:25 ` Bob Spooner
2007-04-16 14:50 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-17 9:17 ` Pascal Obry
2007-04-17 10:04 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-17 15:02 ` Ed Falis
2007-04-17 15:48 ` Pascal Obry
2007-04-17 20:53 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-04-18 0:21 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-04-18 8:16 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-04-21 2:18 ` adaworks
2007-04-12 18:47 ` Robert A Duff
2007-04-12 19:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-12 19:54 ` Peter C. Chapin
2007-04-12 20:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-14 19:56 ` Chad R. Meiners
2007-04-13 0:16 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-14 7:01 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-14 10:48 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-15 13:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-15 16:01 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-15 17:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-15 21:41 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-15 22:00 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-16 8:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-16 9:04 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-17 7:58 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-17 9:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-17 10:46 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-17 10:48 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-15 23:06 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-22 21:50 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-23 19:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-23 20:39 ` Ray Blaak
2007-04-24 8:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-24 16:43 ` Ray Blaak
2007-04-23 22:02 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-14 22:49 ` Robert A Duff
2007-04-14 23:39 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-23 21:16 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-04-23 21:21 ` Ray Blaak
2007-04-23 22:15 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-12 21:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-13 7:39 ` Stuart
2007-04-13 9:05 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-13 0:10 ` Brian May
2007-04-13 8:55 ` Harald Korneliussen
2007-04-14 22:47 ` Robert A Duff
2007-04-14 19:50 ` Chad R. Meiners
2007-04-14 22:52 ` Robert A Duff
2007-04-14 19:28 ` Chad R. Meiners
2007-04-16 8:50 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-04-16 9:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-16 9:56 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-16 16:45 ` Robert A Duff
2007-04-17 9:05 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-04-17 14:51 ` Robert A Duff
2007-04-22 7:42 ` adaworks
2007-04-10 18:15 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-20 16:34 ` adaworks
2007-04-10 19:44 ` Simon Wright
2007-04-10 20:43 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-10 22:02 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-10 22:15 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-11 8:59 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-20 16:25 ` adaworks
2007-04-20 20:35 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-21 5:51 ` adaworks
2007-04-25 0:10 ` Chad R. Meiners
2007-04-10 15:59 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-04-10 16:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-10 18:08 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-11 23:05 ` kevin cline
2007-04-12 7:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-12 10:43 ` Peter C. Chapin
2007-04-12 13:04 ` Markus E Leypold [this message]
2007-04-13 10:46 ` Harald Korneliussen
2007-04-13 16:25 ` Adam Beneschan
2007-04-14 23:41 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-22 7:54 ` adaworks
2007-04-21 18:50 ` adaworks
2007-04-21 19:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
[not found] ` <H5EWh.6302$H_5.612@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>
2007-04-22 9:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-04-10 23:43 ` Brian May
2007-04-12 14:25 ` Bob Spooner
2007-04-13 0:22 ` Brian May
2007-04-23 2:25 ` Justin Gombos
2007-05-16 1:29 ` Adrian Hoe
2007-04-10 1:25 ` Brian May
2007-04-10 1:48 ` martinbishop
2007-04-10 8:33 ` gautier_niouzes
2007-04-10 14:58 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-10 19:05 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-04-10 20:27 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-12 1:18 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-04-12 13:02 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-12 8:47 ` Ada vendor FAQ (was: What is wrong with Ada?) Ludovic Brenta
2007-04-11 15:21 ` What is wrong with Ada? Jason King
2007-04-11 17:53 ` tmoran
2007-04-12 18:55 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2007-04-13 2:59 ` Jason King
2007-04-13 9:03 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-14 15:28 ` Jason King
2007-04-16 16:48 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-21 12:56 ` AJAskey
2007-04-21 13:50 ` jimmaureenrogers
2007-04-21 14:46 ` AJAskey
2007-04-21 15:43 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-23 1:37 ` Brian May
2007-04-21 15:48 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-21 21:42 ` jimmaureenrogers
[not found] ` <vzwWh.2452$Ut6.1591@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
2007-04-22 0:53 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-25 0:20 ` Chad R. Meiners
2007-04-25 9:57 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-25 11:19 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-25 11:54 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-04-25 13:24 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-04-25 13:41 ` adaworks
2007-04-26 3:24 ` jimmaureenrogers
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