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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Quick question regarding limited type return syntax
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 09:34:04 +0200
Date: 2014-08-02T09:34:04+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20m59uxjlygw$.2mpabkt469vp.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: c43h9sFgdq8U1@mid.individual.net

On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 10:11:59 +0300, Niklas Holsti wrote:

> More elegantly IMO, the language could allow a default initialization
> expression to be assigned in the type or subtype declaration:
> 
>    type My_Type is <type definition> := <expression>;

This suggests assigning something to the type.

(The only way to have default initialization is by having a default
constructor. Which is just same.)

BTW,

   type Integer is range ... := 0;
   subtype Positive is Integer range 1..Integer'Last;

   X : Positive; -- Oops!

[...]
> Randy's suggestion for an explicit indication that an object is
> default-initialized is an orthogonal isssue.

Yes, and it would have sense if implicitly uninitialized objects were
illegal. Unfortunately they are not.

> IMO the risk of using uninitialized variables, and the resulting
> non-deterministic bugs, is one of the major remaining holes in the
> safety of Ada.

All initialization/finalization issues are. E.g. parent's Initialize not
called. Finalization deadlock with task components. Dispatching calls
through class-wide access discriminants upon initialization/finalization.
The holes are as big as the hull...

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de


  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-02  7:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-30 23:51 Quick question regarding limited type return syntax NiGHTS
2014-07-31  0:02 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-07-31  0:56   ` NiGHTS
2014-07-31  0:48 ` Shark8
2014-07-31  1:00   ` NiGHTS
2014-07-31  1:29     ` Adam Beneschan
2014-07-31  1:38       ` NiGHTS
2014-07-31  4:01         ` Shark8
2014-08-01  2:12       ` Randy Brukardt
2014-08-01  3:40         ` Shark8
2014-08-01  7:57         ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-01 19:23           ` Randy Brukardt
2014-08-01 19:37             ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-01 20:53             ` Shark8
2014-08-02  7:11               ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-02  7:34                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2014-08-02 13:20                   ` Robert A Duff
2014-08-02 13:44                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-02 14:34                       ` Robert A Duff
2014-08-02 16:56                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-02 20:35                           ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-03  7:30                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-04  9:24                               ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-04 10:42                                 ` G.B.
2014-08-04 11:39                                   ` Peter Chapin
2014-08-04 17:49                                     ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-04 11:36                                 ` Peter Chapin
2014-08-04 12:43                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-04 16:19                                   ` G.B.
2014-08-04 16:38                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-04 16:51                                       ` G.B.
2014-08-04 17:23                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-04 19:37                                   ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-05  8:30                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-05 19:24                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2014-08-03 16:35                           ` Robert A Duff
2014-08-02  8:02               ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-08-02 19:20                 ` Shark8
2014-08-03 16:07                   ` Default values (Was: Quick question regarding limited type return syntax) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-08-04 21:29                     ` Randy Brukardt
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