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From: "Björn Persson" <Bjorn@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se>
Subject: Re: In precision typing we trust
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2025 17:30:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250829173021.53befdce@tag.xn--rombobjrn-67a.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 108qkci$1kvjl$1@dont-email.me

Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> Shouldn’t your test harness have had something like
> 
>     assert isinstance(result_of_test, bool), \

Nope. The Python interpreter should, at a minimum, have done that as
part of its implementation of the if statement. But you already
understood that much; you're just wilfully refusing to get the point.

A better design would have checked the type at compile time. Then the
tester who wrote "false" would have fixed their mistake right away, and
learned from it. I mean, you do know which newsgroup it is you're
promoting Python in.

Programmers are human. Humans make mistakes. A well-designed
programming language helps the programmer avoid mistakes as much as
possible, and to discover their mistakes as early as possible.
Languages that go out of their way to interpret an obvious mistake as a
valid program are prone to what Paul called disaster.

Björn Persson

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-29 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-18 10:29 In precision typing we trust Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-18 11:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-18 13:59   ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-18 15:03     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-18 22:52       ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-19  6:24       ` J-P. Rosen
2025-08-19  7:29         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-20  0:41           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-20 15:49           ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-20 19:00             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-20  0:40         ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-20 13:59           ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-20 14:58             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-20 17:18               ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-20 19:04                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-20 20:38                   ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-20 21:59                     ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-20 23:37                       ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-21 21:37                         ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-21  1:31                     ` Keith Thompson
2025-08-20 18:10       ` Niklas Holsti
2025-08-20 18:54         ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-22  1:27           ` Alastair Hogge
2025-08-22 12:49             ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-22 22:13               ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-22 23:21                 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-23 22:58                   ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-24  8:37                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-24 11:05                       ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-24 12:59                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-24 21:51                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-24 21:50                       ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-25  8:19                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-25  8:51                           ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-25 10:41                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-25 17:12                               ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-25 20:09                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-25 21:13                                   ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-26  7:59                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27  0:13                                       ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27  7:39                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 23:10                                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27 23:49                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28  0:35                                               ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  7:54                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28  8:50                                                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-28  9:02                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-25 21:27                                   ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-26  7:27                                     ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-25 21:10                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-26  8:14                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-26 16:48                               ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-26 17:01                                 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-26 19:43                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27  0:00                                   ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-27  0:14                                     ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27  7:51                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 20:45                                       ` Keith Thompson
2025-08-28  8:38                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28  9:00                                           ` Von Ottone
2025-08-27 23:16                                       ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  8:48                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-29  3:57                                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29  7:53                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-30 22:29                                               ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-31  8:56                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28 12:25                                     ` Björn Persson
2025-08-28 22:14                                       ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29 15:30                                         ` Björn Persson [this message]
2025-08-30  3:34                                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-30  8:49                                             ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-30 22:34                                               ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27  0:09                                   ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27  9:06                                     ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-26 19:36                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27  0:10                                   ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27  7:57                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 23:12                                       ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  0:07                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28  0:38                                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  8:00                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-26  9:06                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-23  0:26                 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-23 22:59                   ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-23 23:58                     ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-24 21:49                       ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-25  8:19                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-25 20:58                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27  9:01                             ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-27  9:24                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 23:07                                 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  0:00                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28  0:22                                     ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  0:11                                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-28  0:20                                     ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-28  0:33                                       ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  1:17                                         ` Alex // nytpu
2025-08-28  1:45                                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  8:24                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-29  3:53                                               ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29  8:07                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-30 22:27                                                   ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-31  9:15                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28  9:17                                             ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-29  3:51                                               ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29  9:27                                                 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-29  9:33                                                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-30  6:21                                                     ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-31  0:43                                                       ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-31  7:30                                                         ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-31  8:51                                                           ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-28  9:04                                         ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-29  3:55                                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29  9:41                                             ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-30  3:31                                               ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  9:05                                         ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-28  9:43                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-29  3:54                                             ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29  8:15                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-30 22:25                                                 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-31  9:26                                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28  0:30                                     ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-20 19:10         ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-18 23:27   ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-18 23:46     ` Kevin Chadwick
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