From: Oliver Kleinke <oliver.kleinke@c-01a.de>
Subject: Re: Object Pascal vs Ada -- which is better for a hobbyist?
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 01:18:33 +0200
Date: 2013-08-28T01:18:33+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130828011833.713415f4@PC-8N-L> (raw)
In-Reply-To: op.w2hb3wtiule2fv@cardamome
Am Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:34:34 +0200
schrieb Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) <yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr>:
> Le Thu, 04 Jul 2013 13:47:20 +0200, <gautier_niouzes@hotmail.com> a
> écrit:
>
> > Le jeudi 4 juillet 2013 08:59:26 UTC+2, Dufr a écrit :
> >> Which is better for an amateur programmer, Object Pascal or Ada?
> >
> > Pascal is easier for learning the basics of programming and for
> > setting up small test programs.
> > The issue is when, even as a hobbyist, your projects become more
> > ambitious. At some point you need to mix various components, or
> > change platform, or work on several systems.
> > Sooner or later you face the fragmentation of the Pascal language,
> > which is not a problem if you stay forever with one Pascal dialect.
>
> I don't agree with the first sentence. A well choose Ada subset is as
> much easy to introduce as Pascal may be. I would say even more, as
> Pascal's behaviour vary too much from compiler to compiler, to not
> become an issue. Introducing a standard presents an advantage here.
>
> What's worth learning something which will become false or subtly
> different, depending on the vendors and platforms? That's not
> pedagogic.
>
If I may barge in here, it is very much possible to write good working
Ada programs using just a very small part of the language, you don't
need to know or use every feature Ada has to offer -- The benefit
however is that when you do need the functionality it's there. Once you
get a hang of the language you can possibly write small test programs
equally fast with the added benefit that you can easily modularize
and reorganize your code to use it in a larger project. And what Yannick
Duchêne wrote concerning portability is also a good point -- why use
some vendor dialect when you can use standardized and highly portable
language...
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2013-07-04 6:59 Object Pascal vs Ada -- which is better for a hobbyist? Dufr
2013-07-04 9:12 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2013-07-04 11:47 ` gautier_niouzes
2013-07-04 15:50 ` Bill Findlay
2013-08-27 14:34 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-27 23:18 ` Oliver Kleinke [this message]
2013-07-04 11:48 ` john
2013-07-04 14:00 ` AdaMagica
2013-07-04 14:22 ` john
2013-07-04 14:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-04 18:18 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-07-04 19:04 ` J-P. Rosen
2013-07-04 20:24 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-07-04 20:36 ` Shark8
2013-07-05 21:20 ` Robert A Duff
2013-07-05 23:39 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-27 14:47 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-27 23:24 ` Oliver Kleinke
2013-07-04 18:49 ` john
2013-07-04 15:49 ` Bill Findlay
2013-07-04 16:00 ` Lucretia
2013-07-04 17:59 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-07-05 21:39 ` Robert A Duff
2013-07-06 7:04 ` Dufr
2013-07-06 15:53 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-06 17:41 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-07-06 18:59 ` Shark8
2013-07-06 18:36 ` Ludovic Brenta
2013-07-06 22:19 ` Maurizio Tomasi
2013-07-07 8:43 ` Mike H
2013-07-08 13:53 ` Marc C
2013-08-27 14:50 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-27 16:50 ` Simon Clubley
2013-08-27 17:02 ` Bill Findlay
2013-08-27 20:27 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-28 12:05 ` Simon Clubley
2013-08-27 21:08 ` Gour
2013-08-27 22:57 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-28 8:54 ` Gour
2013-08-28 9:35 ` Web-UI for Ada applications (Was: Object Pascal vs Ada -- which is better for a hobbyist?) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-08-28 10:48 ` Web-UI for Ada applications Gour
2013-08-28 11:32 ` Simon Clubley
2013-08-28 11:54 ` Gour
2013-08-28 12:05 ` G.B.
2013-08-28 16:13 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-28 15:54 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-28 14:08 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-08-28 15:34 ` Web-UI for Ada applications (Was: Object Pascal vs Ada -- which is better for a hobbyist?) Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-29 9:51 ` Web-UI for Ada applications Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-08-27 23:17 ` Object Pascal vs Ada -- which is better for a hobbyist? Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-27 23:37 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-27 23:40 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-28 0:04 ` Oliver Kleinke
2013-08-28 6:28 ` Simon Wright
2013-09-01 3:04 ` Maurizio Tomasi
2013-09-01 3:48 ` Shark8
2013-08-28 8:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-28 9:01 ` Gour
2013-08-28 9:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-28 10:42 ` Gour
2013-07-07 4:14 ` Patrick
2013-08-27 14:23 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2016-03-14 15:29 ` girobusan
2016-03-14 18:19 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-03-14 18:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-03-14 23:52 ` Randy Brukardt
2016-03-15 10:51 ` Bob Butler
2016-03-15 21:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2016-03-16 11:07 ` Bob Butler
2016-03-16 21:22 ` Ludovic Brenta
2016-03-17 1:08 ` brbarkstrom
2016-03-17 7:59 ` Bob Butler
2016-03-17 8:36 ` gautier_niouzes
2016-03-15 9:04 ` egarrulo
2016-03-15 9:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-03-15 9:56 ` egarrulo
2016-03-15 10:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-03-15 10:31 ` egarrulo
2016-03-15 10:53 ` egarrulo
2016-03-15 13:18 ` G.B.
2016-03-15 13:52 ` egarrulo
2016-03-15 14:28 ` G.B.
2016-03-15 14:31 ` egarrulo
2016-03-17 14:59 ` sjaniska
2016-03-15 17:50 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2016-03-16 15:43 ` Jeremiah
2016-03-15 14:38 ` G.B.
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