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From: Oliver Kleinke <oliver.kleinke@c-01a.de>
Subject: Re: Object Pascal vs Ada -- which is better for a hobbyist?
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 01:18:33 +0200
Date: 2013-08-28T01:18:33+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130828011833.713415f4@PC-8N-L> (raw)
In-Reply-To: op.w2hb3wtiule2fv@cardamome

Am Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:34:34 +0200
schrieb Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) <yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr>:

> Le Thu, 04 Jul 2013 13:47:20 +0200, <gautier_niouzes@hotmail.com> a
> écrit:
> 
> > Le jeudi 4 juillet 2013 08:59:26 UTC+2, Dufr a écrit :
> >> Which is better for an amateur programmer, Object Pascal or Ada?
> >
> > Pascal is easier for learning the basics of programming and for
> > setting up small test programs.
> > The issue is when, even as a hobbyist, your projects become more  
> > ambitious. At some point you need to mix various components, or
> > change platform, or work on several systems.
> > Sooner or later you face the fragmentation of the Pascal language,
> > which is not a problem if you stay forever with one Pascal dialect.
> 
> I don't agree with the first sentence. A well choose Ada subset is as
> much easy to introduce as Pascal may be. I would say even more, as
> Pascal's behaviour vary too much from compiler to compiler, to not
> become an issue. Introducing a standard presents an advantage here.
> 
> What's worth learning something which will become false or subtly  
> different, depending on the vendors and platforms? That's not
> pedagogic.
> 

If I may barge in here, it is very much possible to write good working
Ada programs using just a very small part of the language, you don't
need to know or use every feature Ada has to offer -- The benefit
however is that when you do need the functionality it's there. Once you
get a hang of the language you can possibly write small test programs
equally fast with the added benefit that you can easily modularize
and reorganize your code to use it in a larger project. And what Yannick
Duchêne wrote concerning portability is also a good point -- why use
some vendor dialect when you can use standardized and highly portable
language...


  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-27 23:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-04  6:59 Object Pascal vs Ada -- which is better for a hobbyist? Dufr
2013-07-04  9:12 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2013-07-04 11:47 ` gautier_niouzes
2013-07-04 15:50   ` Bill Findlay
2013-08-27 14:34   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-27 23:18     ` Oliver Kleinke [this message]
2013-07-04 11:48 ` john
2013-07-04 14:00   ` AdaMagica
2013-07-04 14:22     ` john
2013-07-04 14:31       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-04 18:18         ` Niklas Holsti
2013-07-04 19:04           ` J-P. Rosen
2013-07-04 20:24             ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-07-04 20:36               ` Shark8
2013-07-05 21:20               ` Robert A Duff
2013-07-05 23:39                 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-27 14:47           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-27 23:24             ` Oliver Kleinke
2013-07-04 18:49         ` john
2013-07-04 15:49 ` Bill Findlay
2013-07-04 16:00 ` Lucretia
2013-07-04 17:59 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-07-05 21:39 ` Robert A Duff
2013-07-06  7:04 ` Dufr
2013-07-06 15:53   ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-06 17:41   ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-07-06 18:59     ` Shark8
2013-07-06 18:36   ` Ludovic Brenta
2013-07-06 22:19   ` Maurizio Tomasi
2013-07-07  8:43     ` Mike H
2013-07-08 13:53   ` Marc C
2013-08-27 14:50   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-27 16:50     ` Simon Clubley
2013-08-27 17:02       ` Bill Findlay
2013-08-27 20:27       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-28 12:05         ` Simon Clubley
2013-08-27 21:08       ` Gour
2013-08-27 22:57         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-28  8:54           ` Gour
2013-08-28  9:35             ` Web-UI for Ada applications (Was: Object Pascal vs Ada -- which is better for a hobbyist?) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-08-28 10:48               ` Web-UI for Ada applications Gour
2013-08-28 11:32                 ` Simon Clubley
2013-08-28 11:54                   ` Gour
2013-08-28 12:05                   ` G.B.
2013-08-28 16:13                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-28 15:54                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-28 14:08                 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-08-28 15:34               ` Web-UI for Ada applications (Was: Object Pascal vs Ada -- which is better for a hobbyist?) Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-29  9:51                 ` Web-UI for Ada applications Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-08-27 23:17         ` Object Pascal vs Ada -- which is better for a hobbyist? Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-27 23:37         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-27 23:40           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-28  0:04             ` Oliver Kleinke
2013-08-28  6:28           ` Simon Wright
2013-09-01  3:04           ` Maurizio Tomasi
2013-09-01  3:48             ` Shark8
2013-08-28  8:02         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-28  9:01           ` Gour
2013-08-28  9:55             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-28 10:42               ` Gour
2013-07-07  4:14 ` Patrick
2013-08-27 14:23 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2016-03-14 15:29 ` girobusan
2016-03-14 18:19   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-03-14 18:57     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-03-14 23:52       ` Randy Brukardt
2016-03-15 10:51       ` Bob Butler
2016-03-15 21:51         ` Randy Brukardt
2016-03-16 11:07           ` Bob Butler
2016-03-16 21:22             ` Ludovic Brenta
2016-03-17  1:08               ` brbarkstrom
2016-03-17  7:59               ` Bob Butler
2016-03-17  8:36                 ` gautier_niouzes
2016-03-15  9:04     ` egarrulo
2016-03-15  9:34       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-03-15  9:56         ` egarrulo
2016-03-15 10:23           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-03-15 10:31             ` egarrulo
2016-03-15 10:53               ` egarrulo
2016-03-15 13:18                 ` G.B.
2016-03-15 13:52                   ` egarrulo
2016-03-15 14:28                     ` G.B.
2016-03-15 14:31                       ` egarrulo
2016-03-17 14:59                         ` sjaniska
2016-03-15 17:50                       ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2016-03-16 15:43                     ` Jeremiah
2016-03-15 14:38                   ` G.B.
2016-03-15 17:33               ` Nasser M. Abbasi
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