From: Erlo Haugen <_elh_@_terma_._com_>
Subject: Re: C bug of the day
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:16:36 +0200
Date: 2003-06-12T09:16:36+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030612091636.000077e5._elh_@_terma_._com_> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3EE75B94.9000207@cogeco.ca
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:40:52 -0400
"Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" <ve3wwg@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
> > No language can be perfect, I guess. What is good for some kind of tasks
> > might be bad in other cases. Ada has its strengths and weaknesses (think
> > about string handling). I don't think anyone would even think about Ada for
> > embedded applications in 8 bit MCU's as an example.
> >
> > Erlo
>
> I don't see string handling as being a "weakness". I know I sure
> saw it that way when I was first starting to use the language. But
> with the necessary experience, you learn the "Ada way" of working
> with strings (this includes how to use native strings and when to
> use Ada.Strings.Unbounded etc.)
>
I didn't mean weakness as in "unsafe". It's just that string handling in Ada is
a little tediuos. Other languages has much better provision for string handling.
This was just to show that for some jobs, other languages might be more
productive.
> If you want to be picky, C has "weaknesses" with strings too. For
> example if you want to return a string value as a parameter, you
> have to supply its maximum length as a separate argument (the
> string pointer itself does not reflect how much room you have for
> the result). There are other ways of returning strings through a
> parameter, but none of them without their own caveats.
>
> Ada does require the programmer to think differently to use "native
> strings". But this is not necessarily a "weakness" because it is
> different.
Correct. But the point I wanted to make was that a language that is perfect (or
close to) for one task is not neccessary any good for another task.
Erlo
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2003-06-03 13:38 C bug of the day Hyman Rosen
2003-06-03 21:35 ` Ron Natalie
2003-06-03 21:38 ` John H. Lindsay
2003-06-04 13:25 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-03 21:49 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-04 13:26 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-05 7:35 ` Raoul Gough
2003-06-04 17:59 ` Carlos Moreno
2003-06-04 18:02 ` Ken Hagan
2003-06-10 16:51 ` Matthew Heaney
2003-06-04 18:05 ` Peter van Merkerk
2003-06-05 7:36 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-05 15:58 ` Terje Slettebø
2003-06-05 20:51 ` Dave Harris
2003-06-10 13:20 ` kanze
2003-06-10 13:40 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-10 13:51 ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-10 20:32 ` Jim Rogers
2003-06-11 4:01 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-11 4:25 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-11 9:41 ` kanze
2003-06-11 9:31 ` kanze
2003-06-11 12:48 ` James Rogers
2003-06-11 16:43 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-11 21:41 ` Mike Silva
2003-06-12 12:39 ` kanze
2003-06-12 12:52 ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-13 1:32 ` James Rogers
2003-06-13 9:37 ` AG
2003-06-13 12:21 ` Peter Amey
2003-06-13 13:38 ` Ed Falis
2003-06-13 14:43 ` kanze
2003-06-13 16:06 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-13 21:32 ` AG
2003-06-11 9:22 ` kanze
2003-06-11 9:49 ` Erlo Haugen
2003-06-11 10:11 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-11 10:50 ` Erlo Haugen
2003-06-11 11:08 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-11 11:29 ` Erlo Haugen
2003-06-11 11:58 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-11 12:38 ` Erlo Haugen
2003-06-11 12:59 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-11 13:13 ` Erlo Haugen
2003-06-12 3:26 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-12 20:24 ` Pascal Obry
2003-06-13 23:40 ` Randy Brukardt
2003-06-14 10:57 ` Replacement for Text_IO? (was Re: C bug of the day) Dale Stanbrough
2003-06-16 22:06 ` Randy Brukardt
2003-06-16 22:35 ` Gautier Write-only
2003-06-17 1:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2003-06-17 1:56 ` Dale Stanbrough
2003-06-17 8:46 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-17 11:42 ` Dale Stanbrough
2003-06-17 12:53 ` Larry Kilgallen
[not found] ` <sqilr-9d3.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com>
2003-06-12 7:35 ` Compilers on old machines (was: " Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-13 23:33 ` C bug of the day Randy Brukardt
2003-06-16 11:23 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-16 21:41 ` Randy Brukardt
2003-06-16 21:45 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-17 10:52 ` Replacement for Text_IO? (was Re: C bug of the day) Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-11 10:36 ` C bug of the day Peter Hermann
2003-06-11 10:43 ` Erlo Haugen
2003-06-11 13:12 ` Bernd Trog
2003-06-11 16:40 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-12 7:16 ` Erlo Haugen [this message]
2003-06-11 16:40 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-11 16:59 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-12 3:28 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-11 18:05 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-12 12:56 ` kanze
2003-06-11 22:31 ` Kevin Cline
2003-06-12 7:06 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-12 18:40 ` Mike Silva
2003-06-12 19:03 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-13 15:07 ` kanze
2003-06-13 15:23 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-12 10:21 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-12 21:58 ` Matthew Heaney
2003-06-13 15:13 ` kanze
2003-06-14 6:10 ` Simon Wright
2003-06-12 14:23 ` kanze
2003-06-13 1:52 ` James Rogers
2003-06-13 15:24 ` kanze
2003-06-13 15:31 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-14 10:37 ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-14 6:12 ` Simon Wright
2003-06-14 14:39 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-12 17:33 ` Matthew Heaney
2003-06-12 20:38 ` Simon Wright
2003-06-10 16:55 ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-11 10:10 ` James Rogers
2003-06-12 0:12 ` Andrei Alexandrescu
2003-06-12 9:23 ` James Rogers
2003-06-12 10:27 ` Andrei Alexandrescu
2003-06-13 8:16 ` James Rogers
2003-06-13 15:55 ` Terje Slettebø
2003-06-14 9:57 ` Ron Natalie
2003-06-14 20:27 ` Terje Slettebø
2003-06-16 22:46 ` kanze
2003-06-16 22:54 ` Ron Natalie
2003-06-15 0:07 ` Dave Harris
2003-06-16 22:50 ` kanze
2003-06-17 15:33 ` Dave Harris
2003-06-15 1:54 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-15 10:07 ` Terje Slettebø
2003-06-18 21:15 ` Balog Pal
2003-06-14 20:27 ` Francis Glassborow
2003-06-15 10:06 ` Terje Slettebø
2003-06-15 18:31 ` Francis Glassborow
2003-06-16 8:45 ` Terje Slettebø
2003-06-16 22:42 ` Francis Glassborow
2003-06-17 17:51 ` kanze
2003-06-18 15:47 ` John Potter
2003-06-15 15:04 ` John Potter
2003-06-15 21:55 ` Francis Glassborow
2003-06-16 9:06 ` John Potter
2003-06-16 22:43 ` Francis Glassborow
2003-06-13 19:22 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-14 9:50 ` kanze
2003-06-14 9:51 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-14 10:01 ` Dave Harris
2003-06-15 0:45 ` Terje Slettebø
2003-06-15 18:12 ` Dave Harris
2003-06-16 22:52 ` kanze
2003-06-17 10:46 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-14 10:15 ` Andrei Alexandrescu
2003-06-14 16:16 ` Simon Wright
2003-06-18 21:15 ` Balog Pal
2003-06-12 19:43 ` Balog Pal
2003-06-13 8:17 ` James Rogers
2003-06-13 19:10 ` Terje Slettebø
2003-06-14 9:53 ` LLeweLLyn
2003-06-14 17:10 ` Addding new attributes to Ada0Y Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-12 13:25 ` C bug of the day kanze
2003-06-13 0:39 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-13 21:25 ` LLeweLLyn
2003-06-13 23:42 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-16 22:53 ` kanze
2003-06-17 15:43 ` Terje Slettebø
2003-06-18 1:41 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-18 13:52 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-18 14:37 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-18 15:17 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-19 8:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-19 23:33 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-20 1:18 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-20 4:56 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-20 5:05 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-20 5:54 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-20 7:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-20 21:12 ` Mark A. Biggar
2003-06-21 7:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-18 21:12 ` kanze
2003-06-19 3:24 ` James Rogers
2003-06-19 14:02 ` kanze
2003-06-19 23:29 ` tmoran
2003-06-20 9:38 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-20 12:25 ` kanze
2003-06-24 1:59 ` Matthew Heaney
2003-06-20 0:42 ` Jim Rogers
2003-06-20 9:38 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-20 9:39 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-19 4:28 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-20 23:02 ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-21 19:41 ` Dave Harris
2003-06-23 0:02 ` Terje Slettebø
2003-06-23 15:51 ` Dave Harris
2003-06-17 10:35 ` Andy Sawyer
2003-06-17 17:48 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-06-17 17:52 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-18 14:10 ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-18 15:39 ` Andy Sawyer
2003-06-13 8:00 ` Mike Silva
2003-06-15 0:40 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-16 22:57 ` kanze
2003-06-13 8:05 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-14 9:56 ` LLeweLLyn
2003-06-15 0:42 ` Ed Avis
2003-06-15 10:01 ` LLeweLLyn
2003-06-15 21:59 ` Ed Avis
2003-06-16 9:04 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-15 0:45 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-13 8:17 ` James Rogers
2003-06-14 9:52 ` kanze
2003-06-15 0:43 ` James Rogers
2003-06-15 18:48 ` Garbage Collector [Was: C bug of the day] Martin Krischik
2003-06-16 23:30 ` Robert A Duff
2003-06-17 3:51 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-14 16:22 ` Bounded integer types (was: C bug of the day) Ed Avis
2003-06-03 21:59 ` C bug of the day Mike Silva
2003-06-04 16:41 ` LLeweLLyn
2003-06-04 22:37 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-09 23:50 ` Balog Pal
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