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From: Oleg Goodyckov <og@videoproject.kiev.ua>
Subject: Re: FAQ and string functions
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:09:09 +0300
Date: 2002-08-01T14:09:09+03:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020801140909.I1080@videoproject.kiev.ua> (raw)
In-Reply-To: wccn0s71us5.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 08:56:10PM +0000, Robert A Duff wrote:
> Suppose I'm writing a long-lived application that does string fiddling.
> Should I choose Ada (because it has good type checking and whatnot,
> which helps make my code maintainable), or should I choose Perl, because
> it has useful string fiddling ops available (*portably* available)?
> It's annoying to have to make that choice, because the two issues are
> orthogonal (there's no reason why a language can't be good in both
> ways).

Yes!

> So I think the original poster's complaint is reasonable.  The complaint
> is, "X is not available"; the response, "well, you can write X yourself"
> is not impressive.

Yes!

> To be honest, I would never choose Perl for *anything*, because I value
> various "ilities" over having some useful operations available.
> (I think Perl is an abomination.)  But I can understand why some folks
> make the opposite choice.

O yes.

> By the way, a partial answer to the original poster's question is to
> look at the various GNAT packages, such as SNOBOL.  I have no idea
> whether they do what you want, but they do some kinds of string
> manipulation.  They may be compiler dependent, or they may be useful
> with other compilers.

Thanx. I've looked to that packages and have found a little.

It is very interest (for me at least), how much from all abilities of
string manipulation functions, written for Ada are really used? There are
so many functions and procedures and different their variants... How many
from them are using? This is rhythorical question. I'm not waiting answer.

From times of PL/1 I have stable abomination to string processing because
using of SUBSTRING, INDEX etc. is true perversion. It is very hard to
worki with. And enstead of it simple splitting string to list of tokens by
one operator transforms string processing miraculous to usual work. For me
it was very big surprize. I've found this simple trick solves most
problems in most cases. For example, after splitting I have number of
tokens in my string. In many cases it is very important information for
diagnostic purposes and frequently is enough for making decision. Then I
can subsequntly to split every string got on previous splitting and work
independently from other contents of original string. This makes an
algorythms more opaque and simple. The same work using of combinations of
SUBSTRING and INDEX looks awfull.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-08-01 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-30  6:32 FAQ and string functions Oleg Goodyckov
2002-07-30  8:52 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2002-07-30 13:48 ` Ted Dennison
2002-07-31  4:52   ` Brian May
2002-08-01 16:09     ` Ted Dennison
2002-08-02  0:21       ` Brian May
2002-08-02  1:56         ` tmoran
2002-08-02 13:59         ` Ted Dennison
2002-07-31  7:46   ` Oleg Goodyckov
2002-07-31  9:04     ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2002-07-31  9:39       ` Pascal Obry
2002-07-31 15:06         ` Oleg Goodyckov
2002-07-31 16:50       ` Oleg Goodyckov
2002-07-31 20:16     ` Simon Wright
2002-07-31 20:56       ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-01  0:11         ` Darren New
2002-08-01  1:08           ` tmoran
2002-08-01  9:25           ` Brian May
2002-08-01 11:20           ` Oleg Goodyckov
2002-08-01 15:43             ` Darren New
2002-08-01 21:37               ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-03  0:42                 ` Ted Dennison
2002-08-03 13:51                   ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-03 16:43                   ` Darren New
2002-08-05 13:37                   ` Stephen Leake
2002-08-02  8:01               ` Oleg Goodyckov
2002-08-02 16:09                 ` Darren New
2002-08-01 11:09         ` Oleg Goodyckov [this message]
2002-08-01 14:08           ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-08-01 15:06             ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-01 16:05             ` Oleg Goodyckov
2002-08-01 14:57         ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-07-31 22:04     ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-07-31 15:23       ` Oleg Goodyckov
2002-08-01 21:57         ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-01 13:10           ` Oleg Goodyckov
2002-08-02 23:29             ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-02 16:35               ` Oleg Goodyckov
2002-08-05 11:50                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-08-05 14:29                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-05 14:57                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-08-05 15:12                   ` Oleg Goodyckov
2002-08-05 16:20                   ` Darren New
2002-08-05 17:01                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-08-05 17:48                       ` Darren New
2002-08-05 19:06                         ` tmoran
2002-08-05 20:08                           ` Darren New
     [not found]                     ` <slrnakv3q9.p2.lutz@taranis.iks-jena.de>
     [not found]                       ` <3D4FEFCB.3B74F5E5@san.rr.com>
2002-08-14  0:07                         ` Randy Brukardt
2002-08-01 14:29     ` Ted Dennison
2002-08-01 16:47       ` Oleg Goodyckov
2002-08-02 14:05         ` Ted Dennison
2002-08-02 16:11           ` Darren New
2002-08-03  0:30             ` Ted Dennison
2002-08-03  0:58               ` Darren New
2002-08-03  2:04                 ` Dale Stanbrough
2002-08-03  2:32                 ` Ted Dennison
2002-08-03  2:47                   ` Darren New
2002-08-03 12:41                     ` Ted Dennison
2002-08-03 16:53                       ` Darren New
2002-08-04  1:08                         ` Ted Dennison
2002-08-04 16:23                           ` Darren New
2002-08-05  2:16                             ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-05  3:45                               ` Darren New
2002-08-05  9:56                     ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2002-08-05 16:02                       ` Darren New
2002-08-14  0:42                         ` Randy Brukardt
2002-08-14  1:45                           ` Darren New
2002-08-14 19:37                             ` Randy Brukardt
2002-08-14 20:25                               ` Stephen Leake
2002-08-14 20:22                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-08-15 19:24                             ` Randy Brukardt
     [not found]                         ` <jb1vkustkugeutalhvrhv1n0k9hqn2fpip@4ax.com>
     [not found]                           ` <3D4FF351.8F4A6C0A@san.rr.com>
2002-08-14  1:03                             ` Randy Brukardt
2002-08-14  1:05                       ` Robert A Duff
     [not found]                       ` <3D4EA1AC.80D17170@s <wccofc6b66u.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com>
2002-08-14 20:29                         ` Stephen Leake
2002-08-26 17:53                           ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-26 18:40                             ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-08-26 18:52                               ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-26 21:46                                 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-08-05 13:29                     ` Stephen Leake
2002-08-03  5:07                   ` achrist
2002-08-03 12:52                     ` Ted Dennison
2002-08-05 15:34                       ` Ted Dennison
2002-08-05 13:24                 ` Stephen Leake
2002-08-05 16:02                   ` Darren New
2002-08-05  7:18           ` Oleg Goodyckov
2002-08-02  1:04     ` tmoran
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