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From: kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry Kilgallen)
Subject: Re: Win2000 has 63,000 'defects'
Date: 2000/02/15
Date: 2000-02-15T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2000Feb15.143333.1@eisner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: t7u2ja5lpx.fsf@calumny.jyacc.com

In article <t7u2ja5lpx.fsf@calumny.jyacc.com>, Hyman Rosen <hymie@prolifics.com> writes:
> Gautier <gautier.demontmollin@maths.unine.ch> writes:
>> Urging developers to clean up their code, a Microsoft exec
>> says: 'How many of you would spend $500 on a piece of
>> software with over 63,000 potential known defects?' It
>> ships Thursday.
>> 
>> Not everyone will be having fun at Microsoft Corp. next week. While
>> the software giant and its partners celebrate the arrival of Windows
>> 2000 on Thursday, Feb. 17, hundreds of members of the Windows
>> development team will be busy cleaning up the mess.
>> 
>> Someone to sell or install them poor an Ada compiler ? ;o) G.
> 
> Why do you think the defects have anything to do with the language
> used to develop Windows 2000? Do you know that the defects are
> coding errors, as opposed to being design errors or unimplemented
> features?

I am convinced that a great many of their defects are coding issues.

I am not convinced that fixing all the coding issues (by any method)
would not still leave a great many other defects, probably enough to
make the fact that coding issues had been fixed invisible to the user.

I am not at all convinced that defects enumerated by Microsoft (or
any other vendor) cover a reasonable fraction of the total defects
in the software.




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Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-02-15  0:00 Win2000 has 63,000 'defects' Gautier
2000-02-15  0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-15  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen [this message]
2000-02-15  0:00     ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-15  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-15  0:00       ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-02-15  0:00         ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-15  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-15  0:00           ` Ed Falis
2000-02-15  0:00             ` Hyman Rosen
     [not found]             ` <RUkq4.1243$dw3.69085@news.wenet.net>
2000-02-15  0:00               ` Dang! (was Re: Win2000 has 63,000 'defects') Mike Silva
2000-02-17  0:00                 ` Preben Randhol
2000-02-17  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]           ` <150220001931201946%emery@grebyn.com>
2000-02-17  0:00             ` Win2000 has 63,000 'defects' Dale Pontius
     [not found]               ` <1e66z6d.1a9fzdvtbw6t2N%herwin@gmu.edu>
2000-02-19  0:00                 ` Nick Roberts
2000-02-19  0:00               ` Joe Wisniewski
2000-02-21  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-03-04  0:00                   ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-03-06  0:00                     ` Charles Hixson
2000-03-06  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-07  0:00                         ` Ted Dennison
2000-03-07  0:00                       ` Marin D. Condic
2000-03-07  0:00                         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-03-08  0:00                           ` Marin D. Condic
2000-02-17  0:00       ` Preben Randhol
2000-02-16  0:00   ` Gautier
2000-02-17  0:00   ` Charles Hixson
2000-03-07  0:00     ` Mike Dimmick
2000-03-07  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
2000-03-08  0:00       ` Dale Pontius
2000-03-08  0:00         ` David Starner
2000-03-08  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-03-08  0:00             ` Laurent Guerby
2000-03-10  0:00             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-02-15  0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-02-15  0:00   ` Marin D. Condic
2000-02-15  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]     ` <38A9C619.790950B0@quadruscorp.com>
2000-02-15  0:00       ` Keith Thompson
2000-02-17  0:00   ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-17  0:00     ` Gautier
     [not found] ` <38A9C4ED.C75316F9@raytheon.com>
2000-02-16  0:00   ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-16  0:00 ` Windows TP (Re: Win2000 has 63,000 'defects') Vladimir Olensky
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