* XP with Ada?
@ 2000-08-04 0:00 Fredrik Th`o'rnblad
2000-08-04 0:00 ` dale
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From: Fredrik Th`o'rnblad @ 2000-08-04 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: comp.lang.ada
Just curious, is anyone doing Extreme Programming with Ada?
Anyone willing to share some experiences with the rest of us?
/Fredrik
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* Re: XP with Ada?
2000-08-04 0:00 XP with Ada? Fredrik Th`o'rnblad
@ 2000-08-04 0:00 ` dale
2000-08-04 0:00 ` Gautier de Montmollin
2000-08-04 0:00 ` Ed Falis
2000-08-04 0:00 ` Ed Falis
2000-08-09 0:00 ` Lionel Draghi
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From: dale @ 2000-08-04 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
<someone> wrote:
> Just curious, is anyone doing Extreme Programming with Ada?
> Anyone willing to share some experiences with the rest of us?
>
> /Fredrik
Just curious, what is Extreme Programming?
Dale
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* Re: XP with Ada?
2000-08-04 0:00 XP with Ada? Fredrik Th`o'rnblad
2000-08-04 0:00 ` dale
@ 2000-08-04 0:00 ` Ed Falis
2000-08-04 0:00 ` Matthew Woodcraft
2000-08-09 0:00 ` Lionel Draghi
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From: Ed Falis @ 2000-08-04 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Fredrik Th`o'rnblad" <fredrik.thornblad@celsius.se> wrote:
> Just curious, is anyone doing Extreme Programming with Ada? Anyone
> willing to share some experiences with the rest of us?
>
> /Fredrik
I haven't done anything substantial, since I haven't been in a team
programming environment recently. But the first thing you need is a unit
test framework. I've adapted JUnit to use in command line mode for Ada,
but it only works with GNAT, as I needed to use pragma Debug to ensure
that the tests are compiled with assertions enabled. There's probably
some other way to do it that's more portable.
And of course, a copy of Martin Fowler's Refactoring is a very good
idea.
- Ed
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* Re: XP with Ada?
2000-08-04 0:00 ` Ed Falis
@ 2000-08-04 0:00 ` Matthew Woodcraft
2000-08-04 0:00 ` Ed Falis
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From: Matthew Woodcraft @ 2000-08-04 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
Ed Falis <efalis@pop.ne.mediaone.net> writes:
> I haven't done anything substantial, since I haven't been in a team
> programming environment recently. But the first thing you need is a unit
> test framework. I've adapted JUnit to use in command line mode for Ada,
> but it only works with GNAT, as I needed to use pragma Debug to ensure
> that the tests are compiled with assertions enabled.
That sounds extremely useful. Is it publicly available?
-M-
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* Re: XP with Ada?
2000-08-04 0:00 ` Matthew Woodcraft
@ 2000-08-04 0:00 ` Ed Falis
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From: Ed Falis @ 2000-08-04 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
Ed Falis <efalis@pop.ne.mediaone.net> writes:
> I haven't done anything substantial, since I haven't been in a team
> programming environment recently. But the first thing you need is a
> unit test framework. I've adapted JUnit to use in command line mode
> for Ada, but it only works with GNAT, as I needed to use pragma Debug
> to ensure that the tests are compiled with assertions enabled.
Matthew Woodcraft <mattheww@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> That sounds extremely useful. Is it publicly available?
>
> -M-
Guess it's time to talk to the boss ;-)
- Ed
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* Re: XP with Ada?
2000-08-04 0:00 XP with Ada? Fredrik Th`o'rnblad
2000-08-04 0:00 ` dale
2000-08-04 0:00 ` Ed Falis
@ 2000-08-09 0:00 ` Lionel Draghi
2000-08-09 0:00 ` Richard Riehle
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From: Lionel Draghi @ 2000-08-09 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
Fredrik Th`o'rnblad wrote:
> Just curious, is anyone doing Extreme Programming with Ada?
> Anyone willing to share some experiences with the rest of us?
>
> /Fredrik
When i was curious about XP, some month ago, i had the same question.
The only Ada reference i found was
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ExtremeAdaExperiment
_______________________________________________________________________
Lionel Draghi http://www.Ada-France.org/
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* Re: XP with Ada?
2000-08-09 0:00 ` Lionel Draghi
@ 2000-08-09 0:00 ` Richard Riehle
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From: Richard Riehle @ 2000-08-09 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
Nice article about XP with Ada.
I met with Kent Beck last week and asked him if he knew of anyone using XP
with
Ada. He didn't, but would be very interested in hearing of it. Also met
with Martin
Fowler and asked him about it. As with most mainstream programmers, he
knows
very little about Ada. In fact, I still get the, "Is anyone still using
Ada?" question from
lots of well-known authorties on modern programming practice. Sigh ......
If someone is using XP and Ada for a serious project, I suggest they compose
a good
paper/article for publication describing their experience. It would get
some attention if
can be published in one of the popular journals.
Richard Riehle
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Lionel Draghi wrote:
> Fredrik Th`o'rnblad wrote:
>
> > Just curious, is anyone doing Extreme Programming with Ada?
> > Anyone willing to share some experiences with the rest of us?
> >
> > /Fredrik
>
> When i was curious about XP, some month ago, i had the same question.
> The only Ada reference i found was
> http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ExtremeAdaExperiment
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Lionel Draghi http://www.Ada-France.org/
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