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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Ada OOP alternatives?
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:56:00 +0200
Date: 2008-07-23T09:56:00+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1y046u74vmwh3.19jm2fcdx5xpt.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: c721e61c-464a-4ace-8aa8-7b051794fa7c@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:32:20 -0700 (PDT), Adam Beneschan wrote:

> This would make
> it possible to dispense with private parts and put all of the
> "private" stuff into package bodies.

Hmm, I would consider private declarations rather as a private interface.

It is quite common that things are implemented incrementally, with children
packages encapsulating the increments. In effect a huge "private land"
stretches between pure specifications and pure implementations. It is
difficult to invent something instead. I remember how awkward it was in Ada
83. Removing private interfaces would mean a sort of monolithic all-at-once
design. How are you going to handle that?

In the rest I agree with you. Further, I would like to see a support for a
kind of "non-cooperative model of visibility." By this I mean the linker or
what else would be used instead, to map the private stuff read-only, in the
contexts where only public view is available. I.e. "non-visibility rules"
enforced by memory mapping.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-23  7:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-15 20:38 Ada OOP alternatives? raould
2008-07-16  0:15 ` Robert A Duff
2008-07-16  6:33   ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-07-16  9:54     ` Alex R. Mosteo
2008-07-16 13:03       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-07-16 14:07       ` Robert A Duff
2008-07-16 18:11         ` (see below)
2008-07-17  0:05           ` Robert A Duff
2008-07-17  0:43             ` (see below)
2008-07-17  1:36               ` Robert A Duff
2008-07-17 11:07                 ` (see below)
2008-07-17 16:45                   ` Robert A Duff
2008-07-17 12:00                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-07-17 16:50                   ` Robert A Duff
2008-07-17 18:56                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-07-18 12:54                       ` Robert A Duff
2008-07-18 13:36                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-07-17 23:27                 ` Randy Brukardt
2008-07-18 12:45                   ` Robert A Duff
2008-07-18 23:22                     ` Randy Brukardt
2008-07-22 20:32                 ` Adam Beneschan
2008-07-22 22:18                   ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-07-23  9:25                     ` Alex R. Mosteo
2008-07-22 23:35                   ` Randy Brukardt
2008-07-23  7:56                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2008-07-23 21:04                     ` Robert A Duff
2008-07-24  7:07                       ` stefan-lucks
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2008-07-24 12:48                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-07-25  8:47                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-07-25 13:28                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-07-25 16:24                                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-07-25 17:55                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-07-26  5:05                   ` Jeff Koftinoff
2008-07-16 14:03     ` Robert A Duff
2008-07-16 14:29       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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