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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: and visual library once again
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:51:57 +0200
Date: 2005-10-21T18:51:43+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1wfz7htms48ls$.81ekw9cyh700$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: djavhe$1ghi$1@f04n12.cac.psu.edu

On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:55:40 -0400, Bob Spooner wrote:

> "Steve Whalen" <SteveWhalen001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1129888684.681335.230450@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

>> Between 50 and 100 years from now there will be a massive deflationary
>> cycle as powerful computers combined with cheap electricity and
>> increasingly capable robots eliminate the cost of "labor" from the
>> economy.  Since the price performance of robots will begin to follow
>> that of the computers that drive them, all the basics (food, clothing,
>> shelter) will have their costs driven down toward zero.  At some point
>> the government will tax the robots and pay everyone $500 a month which
>> will be more than enough to live on.  You will be able to choose to
>> program, or to watch TV, or to garden, or to serve others, or do
>> nothing, just like in Star Trek <g>. Then programming will mostly be
>> done by people who do it because they love it, because nobody has to
>> work just to survive.

Depends on the definition of "survive." I bet, people storming Spain
borders in Africa differ on this mater with you. So would you with the
people living 100 years later.

> This sounds a lot like the predictions of about 40 years ago that with
> automation, etc. the biggest problem we would have now would be what to do
> with all the extra spare time. And yet the average person is working more
> hours now.

Because, probably the only one thing Marx was right about, is that in these
$500 only the amount of time spent by *human* beings counts. We trade with
other humans, we don't with automata! And we are trading our lives for the
lives of the others...

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-21 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-20 17:29 and visual library once again Szymon Guz
2005-10-20 18:38 ` Pascal Obry
2005-10-20 21:01   ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-20 21:04     ` Pascal Obry
2005-10-20 21:09       ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-20 21:21         ` Pascal Obry
2005-10-21  2:19           ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-21  3:08             ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-10-21  7:52               ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-21 13:48                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-10-21 10:43               ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-21 13:50                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-10-21 13:54                   ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-21 16:29                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-10-21 18:19                       ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-25 22:01                         ` Björn Persson
2005-10-21  4:02             ` tmoran
2005-10-21  6:54               ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-22  5:38                 ` tmoran
2005-10-23  2:42                   ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-21  9:58               ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-21 14:55                 ` Bob Spooner
2005-10-21 16:51                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2005-10-21 22:01                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-23  6:31                   ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-23 11:27                     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-23 21:41                       ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-24  3:14                         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-24 12:52                     ` Bob Spooner
2005-10-25  7:23                       ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-25 14:20                         ` Bob Spooner
2005-10-21 17:01               ` Björn Persson
2005-10-22  5:38                 ` tmoran
2005-10-25 20:51                   ` Björn Persson
2005-10-25 22:16                     ` tmoran
2005-10-25 23:14                       ` Björn Persson
2005-10-26  0:14                         ` tmoran
2005-10-26 22:11                           ` Björn Persson
2005-10-26 23:46                             ` OT: was " tmoran
2005-10-27 23:40                               ` Björn Persson
2005-10-28  2:30                                 ` tmoran
2005-10-30  0:20                                   ` Björn Persson
2005-10-21  7:00             ` Martin Dowie
2005-10-21 14:18               ` Marc A. Criley
2005-10-21 15:53                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-21 18:14                   ` Marc A. Criley
2005-10-21 18:52                   ` Martin Dowie
2005-10-21 18:26             ` Simon Wright
2005-10-21 20:11               ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-21 20:47                 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-22  5:38                   ` tmoran
2005-10-22 12:06                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-10-23  2:41                     ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-23  6:35                       ` tmoran
2005-10-23  6:49                         ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-22  7:56                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-10-23  2:32                     ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-23  8:43                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-10-23  5:34                   ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-23  6:14                     ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-23  7:39                       ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-23  9:31                         ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-24 12:56                   ` Bob Spooner
2005-10-24 13:08                     ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-23  3:44                 ` Steve
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