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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Q: type ... is new String
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 09:32:48 +0200
Date: 2012-06-05T09:32:48+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1tr1nuc1xy9mp$.d5s1fz9vuczz.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4fcd20dd$0$9519$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 22:56:01 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote:

> On 04.06.12 19:05, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:

>> There is nothing ambiguous in character encoding,
> 
> In processing data from any source that speaks HTTP, you don't really know
> the character encoding: you may be told the encoding is X but actually it
> is Y.

<=> I do know the encoding.

You are trying to pursue some absolute truth, e.g. "true encoding" of a
broken page, which simply does not exist and is irrelevant. You should
define an encoding and that is all the corresponding component need to know
about it.

Note again a connection to error checks: the program shall not check
itself. A consequence of this: if you use an input it is not your
responsibility to make guesses. You do as you told. If you want to add some
encoding guessing layer, do it just elsewhere. Just basics of good software
design where each component shall have a well defined narrow functionality.

>> For each possible input
>> there is a defined output the parser should spill. Where is a problem?
> 
> Here is the problem: There is no complete description of the set of
> possible inputs.

See, that is the problem. People didn't do their job.

> It's the web. Changing. Data are not quite as lucid as a set of ways
> to designate a file. Is the latter set changing so frequently that the
> Ada standard would not be able to follow?

Nope, things changing are as irrelevant as the computer's relative position
to Proxima Centauri.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-05  7:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-30 16:33 Q: type ... is new String tmoran
2012-05-30 17:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-31  7:37 ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-06-04  5:58   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-04  6:30     ` J-P. Rosen
2012-06-04  7:48       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-04  8:03         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-04  8:14           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-04  9:09             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-04 10:35         ` J-P. Rosen
2012-06-04  5:43 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-04 11:39 ` Brian Drummond
2012-06-04 13:36   ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-06-04 14:58     ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-04 15:14       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-04 16:06         ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-04 17:05           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-04 20:28             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-04 20:56             ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-05  7:32               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2012-06-05  8:40                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-05  9:06                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-05 12:20                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-05 13:14                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-06  4:09                       ` Shark8
2012-06-06  8:52                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-06 23:56                       ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-07 11:15                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-06 23:51                 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-04 20:33         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-04 21:27           ` Georg Bauhaus
     [not found]             ` <m9kqs7hgii13e220b1phm46n43d92tu1pj@invalid.netcom.com>
2012-06-05  6:15               ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-05  6:36                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-06  4:14               ` Shark8
2012-06-07  0:01             ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-07  0:20               ` Adam Beneschan
2012-06-05 12:05     ` Brian Drummond
2012-06-05 14:43       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-04 15:54   ` Shark8
2012-06-04 22:01     ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-06-05 12:10       ` Brian Drummond
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