From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: GNAT for MS Visual Studio
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 18:03:05 +0200
Date: 2007-10-06T18:03:08+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1tq0h0fb74sxe$.2ys0qzmfxcqo.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4707A3D0.3070702@obry.net
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 17:03:44 +0200, Pascal Obry wrote:
> Matthew Heaney a ļæ½crit :
>> No, this is incorrect. The container keeps track of nested calls
>> (e.g. Query_Element, Iterate) using a count, in order to prevent
>> container misuse (e.g. deleting the element while it's being
>> queried). So even though the logical view of the container doesn't
>> change, then physical view does change, and so the standard requires
>> that multiple tasks accessing a container must be properly
>> synchronized, even when the access is read-only.
>
> Outch! Big mistake to require this to me :(
Why? The container type is not protected, thus you cannot expect it
functioning as if it were the latter.
BTW, I guess if placing a container into a protected object and accessing
it from a function of, might be erroneous on a multi-core platform. Here
two permissions collide: a protected object function can share, the
object's container component cannot. The compiler should change the
implementation of either. Would it?
> Maybe something like "Donļæ½t let best be enemy of good" !
It is rather "We didn't want to change the language to much," like by
making protected types tagged, by introducing pure functions, by allowing
in-out function parameters. It was not the best, not even good...
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2007-09-06 2:20 GNAT for MS Visual Studio William J Thomas
2007-09-06 7:44 ` anon
2007-09-06 8:49 ` Rob Veenker
2007-09-06 11:12 ` William J Thomas
2007-09-11 3:15 ` Jeffrey Creem
2007-09-20 0:00 ` William J Thomas
2007-09-21 0:46 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-21 3:27 ` William J Thomas
2007-09-21 17:31 ` Markus E L
2007-09-21 18:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-22 1:42 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-22 1:59 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-22 5:19 ` Simon Wright
2007-09-22 14:42 ` Steve
2007-09-24 8:14 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-09-25 1:44 ` Steve
2007-09-25 6:41 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-09-25 8:29 ` Michael Bode
2007-09-25 18:00 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-09-25 18:31 ` Michael Bode
2007-09-25 11:20 ` Markus E L
2007-09-26 2:23 ` Steve
2007-09-26 12:21 ` Markus E L
2007-09-28 0:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-28 2:43 ` Steve
2007-09-28 9:36 ` Markus E L
2007-09-29 15:59 ` Michael Bode
2007-09-29 16:50 ` Markus E L
2007-09-26 6:58 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2007-09-26 13:35 ` Steve
2007-09-26 14:06 ` Markus E L
2007-09-27 18:26 ` Michael Bode
2007-09-27 20:18 ` Markus E L
2007-09-28 6:45 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-09-29 9:18 ` michael bode
2007-09-28 2:29 ` Steve
2007-09-28 9:23 ` Markus E L
2007-09-30 14:50 ` Steve
2007-10-02 3:50 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-10-02 11:06 ` Peter C. Chapin
2007-10-02 20:38 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-02 20:45 ` Pascal Obry
2007-10-03 19:23 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-03 19:40 ` Pascal Obry
2007-10-03 20:08 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-04 20:18 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-04 20:21 ` Pascal Obry
2007-10-05 13:25 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-06 10:50 ` concurrent access to containers (was: GNAT for MS Visual Studio) Georg Bauhaus
2007-10-05 20:15 ` GNAT for MS Visual Studio Simon Wright
2007-10-06 14:47 ` Matthew Heaney
2007-10-06 15:03 ` Pascal Obry
2007-10-06 16:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2007-10-06 17:07 ` Pascal Obry
2007-10-06 18:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-10-06 20:32 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-07 7:35 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-10-07 21:30 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-08 7:50 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-10-08 10:32 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-08 13:39 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-08 15:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-10-08 20:40 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-09 8:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-10-06 16:17 ` Matthew Heaney
2007-10-07 3:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-10-07 7:21 ` Pascal Obry
2007-10-07 7:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-10-07 16:41 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-10-07 17:44 ` Simon Wright
2007-10-08 9:52 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-10-08 10:42 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-08 10:59 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-10-08 11:07 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-10-08 18:44 ` Pascal Obry
2007-10-08 15:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-10-08 18:28 ` Pascal Obry
2007-10-07 21:48 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-07 22:27 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-10-08 21:10 ` Simon Wright
2007-10-09 1:53 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-10-09 21:01 ` Simon Wright
2007-10-09 22:48 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-10-10 0:21 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-10-10 4:57 ` Simon Wright
2007-10-10 7:46 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-10-03 5:20 ` Licensing again (was Re: GNAT for MS Visual Studio) Simon Wright
2007-10-03 2:03 ` GNAT for MS Visual Studio Steve
2007-09-28 14:48 ` Ed Falis
2007-09-29 2:32 ` Steve
2007-09-29 6:53 ` Vadim Godunko
2007-09-26 14:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-25 2:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-25 8:40 ` Michael Bode
2007-09-25 11:28 ` Markus E L
2007-09-26 10:19 ` Pascal Obry
2007-09-26 13:00 ` Michael Bode
2007-09-25 2:32 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-25 8:27 ` Stephen Leake
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-12 22:03 Anatoly Chernyshev
2007-10-13 20:25 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-10-14 10:37 ` Simon Wright
2007-10-14 11:26 ` Markus E L
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