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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst C# Features
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 08:31:18 +0200
Date: 2015-09-05T08:31:18+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1s6uj4vbzan40$.1ghcz3js43me7.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: msd2ph$42i$1@loke.gir.dk

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 16:34:40 -0500, Randy Brukardt wrote:

> Opportunity for what, madness? Event-driven GUI programming is just one step 
> short of madness as it is, I'd hate to expand that. Such code is necessarily 
> unstructured spaggetti, because every routine has to be able to handle 
> anything in essentially any order.

There are competing relationships which do not map each other. An
issuer-handler relationship is a mess because other relationship, the
hierarchy of widget types, is considered more important. Another messy
relationship is container-child. We cannot have all three structured, thus
two of them are necessarily mess.
 
> Much like OOP itself, I don't see it having much application away from the 
> GUI (and I'm dubious that it is that good of an organization even for a 
> GUI).

GUI is a poor example for OO actually, because of above.

> As such, it doesn't make much sense in a general purpose programming 
> language.

Only OOP makes sense. There is *no* application where procedural
decomposition is superior to OO decomposition.

Procedural decomposition is untyped per design, because procedures can work
with existing types only. Therefore you must have all types *before* you
start thinking in terms of procedures. So the only types which can be
involved are primitive scalar types or messy ad-hoc low-level records and
arrays.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-05  6:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-02 10:59 Top 10 Worst C# Features Stefan.Lucks
2015-09-02 17:37 ` Álex R. Mosteo
2015-09-02 19:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-09-03  8:14   ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-09-03  9:26     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-09-03 11:39       ` G.B.
2015-09-03 12:00         ` G.B.
2015-09-03 13:59           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-09-03 19:12           ` Randy Brukardt
2015-09-04  7:33             ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-09-04 21:34               ` Randy Brukardt
2015-09-05  6:31                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2015-09-05  6:44                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-09-05  7:07                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-09-05  6:45                 ` Niklas Holsti
2015-09-05  7:21                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-09-05 12:07                   ` Peter Chapin
2015-09-06 10:45                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-10-13 19:57                   ` Eryndlia Mavourneen
2015-09-05  7:16                 ` Shark8
2015-09-03 13:47         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-09-03  8:51 ` gautier_niouzes
2015-10-01 14:03 ` Paul Colin de Gloucester
2015-10-14  8:00   ` Maciej Sobczak
2015-10-14 14:26     ` Ben Bacarisse
2015-10-14 16:50       ` Paul Rubin
2015-10-14 18:17         ` Stefan.Lucks
2015-10-14 19:54           ` Ben Bacarisse
2015-10-15 12:24       ` Maciej Sobczak
2015-10-15 13:59         ` Ben Bacarisse
2015-11-06 14:50     ` Nicholas Collin Paul de Gloucester
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