From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst C# Features
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 08:31:18 +0200
Date: 2015-09-05T08:31:18+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1s6uj4vbzan40$.1ghcz3js43me7.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: msd2ph$42i$1@loke.gir.dk
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 16:34:40 -0500, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> Opportunity for what, madness? Event-driven GUI programming is just one step
> short of madness as it is, I'd hate to expand that. Such code is necessarily
> unstructured spaggetti, because every routine has to be able to handle
> anything in essentially any order.
There are competing relationships which do not map each other. An
issuer-handler relationship is a mess because other relationship, the
hierarchy of widget types, is considered more important. Another messy
relationship is container-child. We cannot have all three structured, thus
two of them are necessarily mess.
> Much like OOP itself, I don't see it having much application away from the
> GUI (and I'm dubious that it is that good of an organization even for a
> GUI).
GUI is a poor example for OO actually, because of above.
> As such, it doesn't make much sense in a general purpose programming
> language.
Only OOP makes sense. There is *no* application where procedural
decomposition is superior to OO decomposition.
Procedural decomposition is untyped per design, because procedures can work
with existing types only. Therefore you must have all types *before* you
start thinking in terms of procedures. So the only types which can be
involved are primitive scalar types or messy ad-hoc low-level records and
arrays.
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Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-02 10:59 Top 10 Worst C# Features Stefan.Lucks
2015-09-02 17:37 ` Álex R. Mosteo
2015-09-02 19:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-09-03 8:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-09-03 9:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-09-03 11:39 ` G.B.
2015-09-03 12:00 ` G.B.
2015-09-03 13:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-09-03 19:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-09-04 7:33 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-09-04 21:34 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-09-05 6:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2015-09-05 6:44 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-09-05 7:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-09-05 6:45 ` Niklas Holsti
2015-09-05 7:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-09-05 12:07 ` Peter Chapin
2015-09-06 10:45 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-10-13 19:57 ` Eryndlia Mavourneen
2015-09-05 7:16 ` Shark8
2015-09-03 13:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-09-03 8:51 ` gautier_niouzes
2015-10-01 14:03 ` Paul Colin de Gloucester
2015-10-14 8:00 ` Maciej Sobczak
2015-10-14 14:26 ` Ben Bacarisse
2015-10-14 16:50 ` Paul Rubin
2015-10-14 18:17 ` Stefan.Lucks
2015-10-14 19:54 ` Ben Bacarisse
2015-10-15 12:24 ` Maciej Sobczak
2015-10-15 13:59 ` Ben Bacarisse
2015-11-06 14:50 ` Nicholas Collin Paul de Gloucester
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