From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Help with embedded hardware/software platform selection for ADA
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 13:11:32 +0200
Date: 2013-07-03T13:11:32+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1rm7a4kx970x1.qug4mwhf3r0e.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 51d3dad0$0$6582$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 10:03:30 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote:
> On 03.07.13 09:18, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:21:06 -0700 (PDT), mjsilva@scriptoriumdesigns.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I could add to this list of examples indefinitely, without coming anywhere
>>> near your Windows/Linux/VxWorks world.
>>
>> Sure, like doing physical layer of Ethernet using digital inputs and
>> outputs. The only question is why anybody would like to?
>
> Rather, the question is, what *are* these programmers actually
> *doing*, and *buying*?
They buy Ethernet controllers...
> "Using cutting edge sensors and powerful
> algorithms, each car in Drive knows where it is."
No idea, except that "cutting edge" sensors by no mean require us cycles.
> Another fashionable product, which is currently pricey, is
> LED light bulb control. Is an Arduino with ham radio attached
> to every bulb even reasonable?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMX512
We used DMX for Landegartenschau outdoor installation in Hamburg:
This is one of the lamps:
http://payload8.cargocollective.com/1/0/20783/2464449/lg_10.jpg
Each lamp's LED is individually controlled over DMX. This is the map:
http://cargocollective.com/christinametzler/Infografik-Landesgartenschau
Each dot on the map is a lamp. The installation is controlled from Windows
computers. We could possibly do it much easier (and cheaper) using our
embedded Ada middleware and its network protocol instead of Windows + DMX.
But it was not available then.
No us cycles needed to control LED lamps. Essential is exact time
synchronization and huge data flow needed for such an installation.
>> Anyway if you want this, why don't you use some Ada to C compiler?
>
> AdaCore's (formerly SofCheck's) requires a C (or C++) runtime,
> and builds a runtime for Ada on top of it, IIUC. So this doesn't
> change the picture.
It does because the premise was: no run-time at all. Then it is perfectly
feasible to compile some arithmetic stuff written in Ada into C.
My point is either you have no run-time or else, full Ada, please.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2013-06-14 15:39 Help with embedded hardware/software platform selection for ADA Max Herman
2013-06-14 17:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-17 15:51 ` Max Herman
2013-06-17 17:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-14 17:45 ` G.B.
2013-06-14 20:52 ` Simon Wright
2013-06-14 20:16 ` RasikaSrinivasan
2013-06-14 20:51 ` Simon Wright
2013-06-17 16:00 ` Max Herman
2013-06-17 0:38 ` Luke A. Guest
2013-06-17 16:05 ` Max Herman
2013-07-04 16:13 ` Lucretia
2013-06-17 6:55 ` Help with embedded hardware/software platform selection for Ada Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-06-17 16:15 ` Max Herman
2013-06-26 23:58 ` Luke A. Guest
2013-06-17 21:46 ` Help with embedded hardware/software platform selection for ADA Marcus F
2013-07-01 18:45 ` mjsilva
2013-07-01 19:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-01 23:35 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-02 7:27 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-02 8:46 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-02 9:09 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-02 14:50 ` Shark8
2013-07-02 15:08 ` mjsilva
2013-07-02 16:53 ` Robert A Duff
2013-07-02 22:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-03 0:22 ` Luke A. Guest
2013-07-03 19:13 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-03 19:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-03 20:50 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-08 12:53 ` Eryndlia Mavourneen
2013-07-03 21:29 ` Luke A. Guest
2013-07-03 22:02 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-07-04 16:02 ` Luke A. Guest
2013-07-05 21:08 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-03 1:01 ` mjsilva
2013-07-03 2:41 ` Luke A. Guest
2013-07-03 7:17 ` Shark8
2013-07-02 16:52 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-02 17:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-02 19:29 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-02 20:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-03 12:08 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-03 12:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-03 16:56 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-02 22:21 ` mjsilva
2013-07-03 7:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-03 8:03 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-03 11:11 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2013-07-03 12:49 ` G.B.
2013-07-03 16:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-03 14:50 ` mjsilva
2013-07-02 8:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-02 10:44 ` Bill Findlay
2013-07-02 13:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-02 13:59 ` Bill Findlay
2013-07-02 14:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-02 16:45 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-02 17:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-02 16:57 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-02 17:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-02 14:55 ` mjsilva
2013-07-02 15:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-02 15:58 ` mjsilva
2013-07-02 16:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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