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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: function Is_Open (File : File_Type) return Boolean; :Text_io
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:37:23 +0100
Date: 2015-10-29T14:37:23+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1quu0fn66x4br$.1f1x6de5oto9u$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7e1b4b17-c769-4aa5-a085-a2ccf2ac75ea@googlegroups.com

On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 04:25:06 -0700 (PDT), AdaMagica wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 2015 22:02:17 UTC+1 schrieb Dmitry A. Kazakov:
>>> In Ada, we can write:
>>> 
>>>     type Gizmo_Count is range 0 .. 2**10;
>>>     Num_Gizmos: Gizmo_Count := 0;
>>> 
>>> IMHO, documenting the 0..1024 requirement in executable code is much
>>> better than using a comment:
>> 
>> How is that documenting? It is a direct instruction to the compiler.
>> Documentation is addressed to the human reader.
>> 
>> The advantage of Ada over C is that where in Ada you can instruct, in C the
>> only way is to document.
> 
> IMHO, this is again a case of Dmitry's special nomenclature:

It is the standard meaning of the word: to record something in written,
graphic or other form; to support or accompany with documentation.

> I think the Ada community has a different bias: Expressing requirements,
> i.e. documentation, in code is preferable.

Actually there are people in c.l.a. against excessive commenting.

> Thus we use Natural rather than
> Integer  for counting, use constraints like above in Gizmo. And we call
> this *documenting*. This is both, an instruction for the compiler *and*
> information addressed to the reader.

So, according to you

   X : Integer;  -- Undocumented
   Y : Natural; -- Documented

Don't you find it a bit silly? There is no difference between both.

BTW, any numeric type in Ada is constrained => "documented", according to
you.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-26 10:00 function Is_Open (File : File_Type) return Boolean; :Text_io comicfanzine
2015-10-26 11:27 ` Simon Wright
2015-10-26 13:25   ` comicfanzine
2015-10-26 18:01     ` Simon Wright
2015-10-26 19:03       ` AdaMagica
2015-10-27 11:30         ` Simon Wright
2015-10-26 18:02     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-10-26 13:28   ` comicfanzine
2015-10-26 15:07     ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-10-26 16:37     ` AdaMagica
2015-10-26 20:46     ` J-P. Rosen
2015-10-27  8:42   ` comicfanzine
2015-10-27 11:34     ` Simon Wright
2015-10-28 13:32       ` comicfanzine
2015-10-27  8:51   ` comicfanzine
2015-10-27 17:15     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-10-26 22:48 ` Bob Duff
2015-10-27  8:30   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-27 13:30     ` Bob Duff
2015-10-27 14:00       ` G.B.
2015-10-27 15:26       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-27 16:43         ` G.B.
2015-10-27 20:04           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-28 11:06             ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-10-28 17:58               ` Randy Brukardt
2015-10-28 18:20               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-28 20:36                 ` Bob Duff
2015-10-28 21:02                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-29 11:25                     ` AdaMagica
2015-10-29 13:37                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2015-10-29 17:57                         ` AdaMagica
2015-10-29 18:12                           ` AdaMagica
2015-10-29 18:26                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-30  8:27                           ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-10-30  9:11                             ` J-P. Rosen
2015-10-29 11:47                 ` G.B.
2015-10-29 13:01                   ` J-P. Rosen
2015-10-29 14:00                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-30  1:06                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-10-30  8:39                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-30 14:32                         ` G.B.
2015-10-30 16:20                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-30 19:07                             ` G.B.
2015-10-31  9:31                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-31 11:17                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-10-30 14:40                         ` G.B.
2015-10-30 16:26                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-28 20:07         ` Bob Duff
2015-10-28 20:59           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-27 14:02     ` G.B.
2015-10-27 15:10       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-27 16:41         ` G.B.
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