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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Why constructing functions is a mess [was Language lawyer question: task activation
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:46:43 +0100
Date: 2009-03-02T18:46:47+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1p6sf3ykej2ls.10jmdonrmif5h.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 49ac0595$0$31344$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net

On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:13:09 +0100, Georg Bauhaus wrote:

> Dmitry A. Kazakov schrieb:
> 
>> A derived type works fine:
>> 
>>    type My_Plant is new Power_Plant with null record;
>>    function Create return My_Plant is
>>    begin
>>       return (Power_Plant'(Create ("my plant")) with null record);
>>    end Create;
> 
>> Now, the point is that this model of construction does not work with
>> abstract types because of fundamental reasons. It is not (<>) which is
>> broken, but the construction model.
> 
> OK, got your point, sorry for being so dense.

No, you still have not. The problem is that the idea of constructing
functions replacing constructors is broken. The example I presented is just
one consequence of this flaw.

> Should the following work for unconstrained abstract Power_Plant?
> (some day, e.g.
> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=34507 )

It is not a compiler bug. It is a language bug. Besides, I have GNAT Pro.

> Would you consider dropping a note on AI05-067 to the ARG list?

Thank you for illustrating my point. This AI perfectly illustrates were
assumptions like 2+2=5 lead:

COMING SOON: !! Mutating objects and Spider-Man !!

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-02 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-19 17:37 Language lawyer question: task activation Adam Beneschan
2009-02-19 17:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-19 23:57   ` Robert A Duff
2009-02-20 13:22     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-23  7:36       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2009-02-20  5:43   ` christoph.grein
2009-02-20 10:44     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-20 11:14       ` christoph.grein
2009-02-20 12:07         ` mockturtle
2009-02-20 13:22           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-20 16:45             ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-20 18:41               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-20 22:19                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-21  8:31                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-27 23:29                     ` Randy Brukardt
2009-02-28  8:13                       ` Why constructing functions is a mess [was Language lawyer question: task activation (was: Language lawyer question: task activation)) Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-28 12:20                         ` Why constructing functions is a mess [was Language lawyer question: task activation Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-28 13:45                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-28 15:36                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-28 16:22                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-28 17:19                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-28 17:48                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-28 18:39                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-28 20:17                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-03-02 16:13                                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-03-02 17:46                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2009-03-02 18:50                                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-03-02 21:02                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-03-03  7:04                                                 ` christoph.grein
2009-03-03  8:45                                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-03-03  9:27                                                     ` christoph.grein
2009-03-03  9:34                                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-03-03 19:13                                                       ` Pascal Obry
2009-03-04  5:29                                                         ` christoph.grein
2009-03-04  8:32                                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-03-04  9:05                                                             ` christoph.grein
2009-03-04  9:47                                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-28 23:12                             ` Maciej Sobczak
2009-03-01  8:23                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-19 23:54 ` Robert A Duff
2009-02-20 10:18 ` Robert_Matthews
2009-02-20 10:34   ` christoph.grein
2009-02-20 14:16   ` Robert A Duff
2009-02-20 16:57     ` Robert_Matthews
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