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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Ada generics
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:48:40 +0100
Date: 2006-12-29T15:48:30+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1on3cinnnckc5.1rxxvjhxs5qzl.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1167327306.22163.66.camel@localhost

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:35:06 +0100, Georg Bauhaus wrote:

> GNAT already supports the detection of identifiers that were 
> spelled similarly. In case of errors, it lists their "relatives".
> Surely a helpful feature, and a proof that practical handling of
> natural language identifiers is possible.
> As an example, as you have been referring to German, consider that
> sharp s, '�', is usually written "SS" when capitalized.
> So "Stra�e" tends to become "STRASSE". Now if you have a composite
> word that has
> - a '�', and
> - an 's' right after it,
> such as "Ma�stab" (= scale, rule, yardstick), then from a simple
> minded formalist's perspective I could argue:
> 
>   "Using Unicode is nonsense because there is no 1:1 mapping for the
>   German word 'Ma�stab' which will become 'MASSSTAB'. "SSS" is
>   ambiguous, it could be "s�" or it could be "�s". That's too big
>   a challenge for a compiler write. So leave me alone with your
>   Unicode and case insensitivity."
> 
> Is that what computer science has to answer when asked about
> characters handling?

No. CS is all about introducing formal languages in place of natural ones,
for obvious reasons.

Corollary: never ever make a formal language (Ada) dependent on a natural
one (German). That would make the former natural.

That's the answer of CS, IMO.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-29 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-21 14:14 Ada generics markww
2006-12-21 15:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-12-22  7:59   ` Martin Krischik
2006-12-22 16:14     ` Hyman Rosen
2006-12-22  7:59   ` Martin Krischik
2006-12-22 16:41   ` Hyman Rosen
2006-12-22 17:33     ` Markus E Leypold
2006-12-22 18:26       ` Hyman Rosen
2006-12-22 20:59         ` Markus E Leypold
2006-12-22 21:01           ` Markus E Leypold
2006-12-23 14:09           ` Marco
2006-12-25 14:23             ` Hyman Rosen
2006-12-29 14:13               ` Marco
2006-12-25 14:20           ` Hyman Rosen
2006-12-23 11:43     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-12-25 13:49       ` Hyman Rosen
2006-12-25 14:39         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-12-26  1:34           ` Hyman Rosen
2006-12-26  9:11             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-12-26 16:23               ` Hyman Rosen
2006-12-26 19:28                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-12-27  1:44                   ` Hyman Rosen
2006-12-27  9:21                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-12-27 19:06                       ` Hyman Rosen
2006-12-28 10:59                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-12-28 16:29                           ` Hyman Rosen
2006-12-29 11:12                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-12-29 14:56                               ` Hyman Rosen
2006-12-28 17:35                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-12-29 14:48                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2006-12-29 19:39                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-12-30  9:58                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-12-30 14:53                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-01-01 13:00                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-01-02 10:04                                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-01-02 11:11                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-01-02 12:33                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-01-02 13:51                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-01-02 14:45                                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-01-03 10:10                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-01-03 14:20                                                   ` Hyman Rosen
2007-01-03 14:55                                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-01-04 10:15                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-01-03 19:33                                           ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2007-01-04 10:27                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-01-04 15:00                                               ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2007-01-05 10:32                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-12-30  2:25                               ` Randy Brukardt
2006-12-30 10:13                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-01-04  1:09                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2007-01-04 10:07                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-01-05  1:32                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2007-01-05  4:46                                         ` Randy Brukardt
2007-01-05  9:08                                         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-01-05 20:14                                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-01-06  0:14                                           ` Randy Brukardt
2006-12-29  0:09                           ` Randy Brukardt
2006-12-29 11:11                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-12-30  2:40                               ` Randy Brukardt
2006-12-21 16:55 ` Hyman Rosen
2006-12-21 18:22   ` markww
2006-12-22  3:01 ` Steve
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