From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:12:27 +0200
Date: 2013-07-09T11:12:27+02:00 [thread overview]
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On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:33:00 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote:
> On 09.07.13 09:51, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 17:27:11 -0700 (PDT), mjsilva@scriptoriumdesigns.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> And these micros continue to have those memory-mapped hardware registers,
>>> and those of us who program these chips deal with those registers all the time.
>>
>> No technology ever dies, it becomes niche.
>
> Microcontrollers a niche???
Yes.
>> Ada's advantage in the niche is minimal.
>
> Please provide evidence.
Because the microcontrollers we are talking about are those where Ada would
be restricted to a subset which would have only syntactic advantages over
C. The programs are tiny, data structures absent. The software is not
maintained as the hardware becomes obsolete in few years. Portability is
zero.
Granted, Ada with SPARK would still be an advantage, but people programming
such stuff won't give a damn anyway.
>> Its advantage on mainstream SBCs is potentially huge.
>
> By all means, please provide evidence!
Because full Ada is portable, maintainable, safe. As an evidence take our
embedded middleware written 100% in Ada. It is fully portable across
Windows/Linux/VxWorks. Its counterpart written in C++ is strictly for
Windows PC and even porting it from Win32 to Win64 would impose problems so
big, that we will probably never do it.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2013-06-19 7:51 Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA Marcus F
2013-06-19 18:20 ` Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running Ada Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-06-19 18:59 ` Marcus F
2013-06-19 19:25 ` Marcus F
2013-07-12 20:35 ` Rego, P.
2013-07-12 20:37 ` Rego, P.
2013-07-07 9:16 ` Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA Lucretia
2013-07-07 9:56 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-07 10:58 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-07 15:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-07 16:27 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-07-08 7:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-08 10:54 ` G.B.
2013-07-08 12:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-08 12:56 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-08 14:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-08 14:43 ` G.B.
2013-07-08 17:23 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-08 18:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 11:53 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-09 12:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 13:11 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-09 20:30 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 22:23 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-10 8:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 12:25 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-10 22:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11 16:58 ` Eryndlia Mavourneen
2013-07-11 22:07 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-08 13:15 ` G.B.
2013-07-08 13:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 0:53 ` mjsilva
2013-07-08 20:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-08 20:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 0:19 ` mjsilva
2013-07-09 0:27 ` mjsilva
2013-07-09 7:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 8:33 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-09 9:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2013-07-09 11:08 ` G.B.
2013-07-09 12:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 14:20 ` G.B.
2013-07-09 15:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 23:13 ` Peter C. Chapin
2013-07-09 15:38 ` mjsilva
2013-07-09 19:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 20:10 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 22:09 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-10 22:21 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11 6:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-11 22:00 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-10 1:31 ` mjsilva
2013-07-10 8:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 22:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 13:53 ` Shmuel Metz
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