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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: GtkAda using Glade
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 22:19:42 +0200
Date: 2011-05-18T22:19:40+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1npn5zwqehpsz.1lqame09nycx1.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: f5f983eb-bfbf-4256-aa24-4613a9ecc22f@h9g2000yqk.googlegroups.com

On Wed, 18 May 2011 11:24:11 -0700 (PDT), Gary wrote:

>> Having reached the level of understanding to tell if the code looks wrong,
>> why would anybody use Gate? (:-)) Seriously, sooner you ditch the crutches,
>> sooner you start walking...
> 
> Are you suggesting that I dismiss the use of Glade as well or just
> Gate?

I am afraid, both. At some stage you will be forced to dismiss them anyway.
Granted, I never looked at them. That is because I had experience with
other GUI generators before. So when I started to learn Gtk I didn't even
bother to look.

> I know Gate converts the XML file to Ada source code, so are you
> saying I should keep the XML file and load it at runtime using
> Libglade...

XML is a pest. There is no single case where it might be useful or at least
neutral.

If you want some sort of serialization/persistency, skins, localization of
a Gtk application, these are complicated issues to be carefully planed. In
your place I would first experiment with Gtk, before going into this.

> or that I should write the GUI code using "raw" GTK?

Yes, at least to be able to debug it.

>> See here for a minimal GtkAda application:
>>
>> http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Simple_windowed_application#Ada
> 
> This sample app uses GTK code in the source so I am guessing that you
> are not in favor of Glade as well as Gate. Am I making the correct
> assumption?

Absolutely. Gtk is a very complex thing. I cannot imagine how a code
generator could be used for TreeView, Gdk, Cairo etc. It has no chance.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-18 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-17 23:58 GtkAda using Glade Gary
2011-05-18  1:14 ` John B. Matthews
2011-05-18 11:56 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-05-18 13:58   ` Gary
2011-05-18 17:25     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-18 18:24       ` Gary
2011-05-18 18:27         ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-18 18:42           ` Gary
2011-05-18 21:54             ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-18 22:09               ` Gary
2011-05-18 23:15                 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-19  1:52                   ` Gary
2011-05-19  5:25               ` J-P. Rosen
2011-05-19  9:23                 ` Manuel Collado
2011-05-19  9:57                   ` J-P. Rosen
2011-05-18 20:19         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2011-05-18 20:45           ` Gary
2011-05-19  7:36             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-19 10:02               ` J-P. Rosen
2011-05-19 10:28                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-19 15:53                   ` J-P. Rosen
2011-05-19 22:57                     ` Gary
2011-05-20  0:54                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-20  1:41                 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-05-20  7:19                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-20  7:34                     ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-05-20  7:45                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-20  0:26               ` Gautier write-only
2011-05-20  7:25                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-20  9:50                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-22  6:22                   ` Gautier write-only
2011-05-22  7:04                   ` Gautier write-only
2011-05-22  8:16                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-20  0:49               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-20  7:36                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-20  8:01                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-20 10:00                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-20 12:55                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-19  5:18         ` J-P. Rosen
2011-05-19  5:12     ` J-P. Rosen
2011-05-18 23:31 ` Rick
2011-05-19  1:52   ` Gary
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