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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Writing an Operating System in Ada
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:50:51 +0100
Date: 2010-01-18T14:50:51+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1l74z2ijrog3d$.1af6vpgc2qq8c$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4b5444ab$0$7615$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:23:23 +0100, Georg Bauhaus wrote:

> If there is a misunderstanding, please help:
> in a world of existing separate OSs, or of to be
> designed OSs, would their respective persistence layers allow,
> given the identifier of some object,

Identifier of some object = the object itself, like when you write in Ada:

    X : Integer;

X is the object and an identifier of.
 
> (1) calling primitive subs defined with the object's type T

Certainly.
 
> (2) learning about T's subs in case the object was stored
>     by some program (defining T) not known to the caller,

No, you don't have the object then (object = identity + type + value).
First you have to convert the type of the object and get a view or else
another transient object of the desired type. Ada's equivalent:

   X : T'Class;
begin
   ... S (X) ...  -- S is a member of T'Class

You might also be able to check if X in S'Class etc.

> (3) adding subs to T to accomodate specified processing needs
>     of another, later program? How?

By conversion of the object to another type:

   X : Integer;
   Y : Float := Float (X); -- Now we have sin, cos etc

This conversion might happen to be a view conversion or not.

1,2,3 represent no problem. IMO the real challenge (apart from consistent
implementations of MI and MD) are dynamic types marshaled between the parts
of a distributed system. I didn't think much about that, so don't expect me
to answer how that should be solved. Probably others might have some
insights...

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-18 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-12  1:13 Writing an Operating System in Ada Shark8
2010-01-12  3:30 ` Leslie
2010-01-12  7:06   ` Shark8
2010-01-12  8:36     ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-01-12 15:14       ` jonathan
2010-01-12 16:21   ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-01-12 16:36     ` Shark8
2010-01-12 17:03       ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-01-12 19:07     ` Tero Koskinen
2010-01-12  9:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-12 17:37   ` Shark8
2010-01-12 19:56     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-12 21:21       ` Shark8
2010-01-12 22:39         ` nobody
2010-01-12 22:50           ` Shark8
2010-01-15 22:45             ` nobody
2010-01-19 21:09               ` Shark8
2010-01-12 21:52       ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-01-12 23:26         ` Shark8
2010-01-13  9:17         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-13 20:20           ` Shark8
2010-01-13 20:55             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-13 22:50               ` Shark8
2010-01-14  8:55                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-14 18:01                   ` Shark8
2010-01-14 19:04                     ` tmoran
2010-01-19 19:07                       ` Shark8
2010-01-14 19:53                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-14 21:07                       ` Shark8
2010-01-14 21:50                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-15  1:24                           ` Randy Brukardt
2010-01-15  8:59                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-19 18:58                   ` Shark8
2010-01-19 19:43                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-14  9:40           ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-01-14 10:28             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-14 18:57               ` tmoran
2010-01-14 19:19                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-14 20:33                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-01-14 21:09                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-14 21:50               ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-01-15  8:37                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-15 21:05                   ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-01-15 21:48                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-16 21:18                       ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-01-16 22:15                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-18 11:23                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-01-18 13:50                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2010-01-18 15:21                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-01-18 16:41                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-18 17:17                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-01-18 18:08                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-19 17:41         ` Writing an Operating System in Ada - now off topic? Leslie
2010-01-13  9:09       ` Writing an Operating System in Ada Georg Bauhaus
2010-01-13  9:27         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-13  3:38     ` Leslie
2010-01-13 12:10       ` Martin
2010-01-13 18:55       ` Ad Buijsen
2010-01-14  9:12       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2010-01-14 10:45         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-14 11:31           ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2010-01-14 13:47             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-14 18:57         ` tmoran
2010-01-13  4:49   ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-01-13 17:29 ` Lucretia
2010-01-13 20:37   ` Shark8
2010-01-16  0:13     ` Lucretia
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