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* Error converting from UTF8 to ISO-8859-1
@ 2009-07-29 15:11 ldries46
  2009-07-29 15:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: ldries46 @ 2009-07-29 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw)


I suddenly got the error mentioned in the title.
I am trying to connect a "clicked" signal from a button in a dialog to a 
routine that executes some function. The code I have so far for the 
Initialize routine of the dialog is:

   procedure Initialize (Wall_Color : access Wall_Color_Record'Class) is
      pragma Suppress (All_Checks);
      Pixmaps_Dir : constant String := "pixmaps/";
      ColorSelection : Gtk_Color_Selection;
      OK : Gtk_Button;
      Cancel : Gtk_Button;
      Help : Gtk_Button;
   begin
      Gtk.Color_Selection_Dialog.Initialize (Wall_Color, -"Wall Color");
      Set_Border_Width (Wall_Color, 5);
      Set_Title (Wall_Color, -"Wall Color");
      Set_Position (Wall_Color, Win_Pos_None);
      Set_Modal (Wall_Color, False);
      Set_Resizable (Wall_Color, False);
      ColorSelection := Get_ColorSel (Wall_Color );
      OK := Get_OK_Button (Wall_Color);
      Cancel := Get_Cancel_Button (Wall_Color);
      Help := Get_Help_Button (Wall_Color);
      Set_Current_Color( ColorSelection, Current_Color );
      Button_CallBack.Connect(OK, "clicked", 
On_WallFloorOK_Activate'Access);
   end Initialize;
When  I outcomment the line Button.Connect etc. the package with this 
function compiles without errors. Once the line is also compiled I get the 
error when opened always on the lines 37:0, 38:0 and 39:0 with the 
descriprion Invalid byte sequence in conversion input. In this case these 
lines are:
      Help : Gtk_Button;
   begin
      Gtk.Color_Selection_Dialog.Initialize (Wall_Color, -"Wall Color");
but when I add multiple lines comments or code for instance on line 20 etc. 
the line nr's of the error stay the same 37, 38 and 39.
I now cannot search further to solve my connect problem.

L. Dries 





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* Re: Error converting from UTF8 to ISO-8859-1
  2009-07-29 15:11 Error converting from UTF8 to ISO-8859-1 ldries46
@ 2009-07-29 15:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
  2009-07-29 16:46   ` ldries46
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry A. Kazakov @ 2009-07-29 15:55 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:11:35 +0200, ldries46 wrote:

> I suddenly got the error mentioned in the title.
> I am trying to connect a "clicked" signal from a button in a dialog to a 
> routine that executes some function. The code I have so far for the 
> Initialize routine of the dialog is:
> 
>    procedure Initialize (Wall_Color : access Wall_Color_Record'Class) is
>       pragma Suppress (All_Checks);
>       Pixmaps_Dir : constant String := "pixmaps/";
>       ColorSelection : Gtk_Color_Selection;
>       OK : Gtk_Button;
>       Cancel : Gtk_Button;
>       Help : Gtk_Button;
>    begin
>       Gtk.Color_Selection_Dialog.Initialize (Wall_Color, -"Wall Color");
>       Set_Border_Width (Wall_Color, 5);
>       Set_Title (Wall_Color, -"Wall Color");
>       Set_Position (Wall_Color, Win_Pos_None);
>       Set_Modal (Wall_Color, False);
>       Set_Resizable (Wall_Color, False);
>       ColorSelection := Get_ColorSel (Wall_Color );
>       OK := Get_OK_Button (Wall_Color);
>       Cancel := Get_Cancel_Button (Wall_Color);
>       Help := Get_Help_Button (Wall_Color);
>       Set_Current_Color( ColorSelection, Current_Color );
>       Button_CallBack.Connect(OK, "clicked", 
> On_WallFloorOK_Activate'Access);
>    end Initialize;
> When  I outcomment the line Button.Connect etc. the package with this 
> function compiles without errors. Once the line is also compiled I get the 
> error when opened always on the lines 37:0, 38:0 and 39:0 with the 
> descriprion Invalid byte sequence in conversion input. In this case these 
> lines are:
>       Help : Gtk_Button;
>    begin
>       Gtk.Color_Selection_Dialog.Initialize (Wall_Color, -"Wall Color");
> but when I add multiple lines comments or code for instance on line 20 etc. 
> the line nr's of the error stay the same 37, 38 and 39.
> I now cannot search further to solve my connect problem.

You should post a complete code.

Also never suppress checks, at least until production code.

P.S. I remotely remember that in some version of GtkAda the color selection
dialog didn't work, but I might be wrong. You could consider switching to
Gtk_Color_Selection.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



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* Re: Error converting from UTF8 to ISO-8859-1
  2009-07-29 15:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
@ 2009-07-29 16:46   ` ldries46
  2009-07-29 17:20     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: ldries46 @ 2009-07-29 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw)


Herewith I sent the complete code of the .adb file that I have made.
I have seen before I tried to connect the buttons that the creation of the 
dialog works. The the close button (right above) destroys the dialog than.
I use the Windows version of GPS 2009 x6-windows and GtkADA which came along 
with it in the beginning of july 2009.

with Glib; use Glib;
with Gtk; use Gtk;
with Gdk.Types; use Gdk.Types;
with Gtk.Widget; use Gtk.Widget;
with Gtk.Window; use Gtk.Window;
with Gtk.Enums; use Gtk.Enums;
with Gtk.Button; use Gtk.Button;
with Gtk.Color_Selection; use Gtk.Color_Selection;
with Gtk.Handlers; use Gtk.Handlers;
with Gtkada.Handlers; use Gtkada.Handlers;
with Callbacks_Escape; use Callbacks_Escape;
with Escape_Intl; use Escape_Intl;
--with Escape_Pkg.Callbacks; use Escape_Pkg.Callbacks;

package body Wall_Color_Pkg is

   package Button_Callback is new Gtk.Handlers.User_Callback
   (Gtk_Button_Record, Gtk_Window);

   procedure On_WallFloorOK_Activate(Object : access 
GTK_Button_Record'Class) is
   begin
      null;
   end;

   procedure Gtk_New (Wall_Color : out Wall_Color_Access) is
   begin
      Wall_Color := new Wall_Color_Record;
      Wall_Color_Pkg.Initialize (Wall_Color);
   end Gtk_New;

   procedure Initialize (Wall_Color : access Wall_Color_Record'Class) is
      pragma Suppress (All_Checks);
      Pixmaps_Dir : constant String := "pixmaps/";
      ColorSelection : Gtk_Color_Selection;
      OK : Gtk_Button;
      Cancel : Gtk_Button;
      Help : Gtk_Button;
   begin
      Gtk.Color_Selection_Dialog.Initialize (Wall_Color, -"Wall Color");
      Set_Border_Width (Wall_Color, 5);
      Set_Title (Wall_Color, -"Wall Color");
      Set_Position (Wall_Color, Win_Pos_None);
      Set_Modal (Wall_Color, False);
      Set_Resizable (Wall_Color, False);
      ColorSelection := Get_ColorSel (Wall_Color );
      OK := Get_OK_Button (Wall_Color);
      Cancel := Get_Cancel_Button (Wall_Color);
      Help := Get_Help_Button (Wall_Color);
      Set_Current_Color( ColorSelection, Current_Color );
      Button_CallBack.Connect(OK, "clicked", 
On_WallFloorOK_Activate'Access);


   end Initialize;

   procedure Set_Wall_Color( Red : in Guint16; Green : in Guint16; Blue : in 
Guint16 ) is
   begin
      Set_Rgb(Current_Color, Red, Green, Blue);
   end;

end Wall_Color_Pkg;

"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> schreef in bericht 
news:8isqph858n0s$.krle17w7i2z1$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:11:35 +0200, ldries46 wrote:
>
>> I suddenly got the error mentioned in the title.
>> I am trying to connect a "clicked" signal from a button in a dialog to a
>> routine that executes some function. The code I have so far for the
>> Initialize routine of the dialog is:
>>
>>    procedure Initialize (Wall_Color : access Wall_Color_Record'Class) is
>>       pragma Suppress (All_Checks);
>>       Pixmaps_Dir : constant String := "pixmaps/";
>>       ColorSelection : Gtk_Color_Selection;
>>       OK : Gtk_Button;
>>       Cancel : Gtk_Button;
>>       Help : Gtk_Button;
>>    begin
>>       Gtk.Color_Selection_Dialog.Initialize (Wall_Color, -"Wall Color");
>>       Set_Border_Width (Wall_Color, 5);
>>       Set_Title (Wall_Color, -"Wall Color");
>>       Set_Position (Wall_Color, Win_Pos_None);
>>       Set_Modal (Wall_Color, False);
>>       Set_Resizable (Wall_Color, False);
>>       ColorSelection := Get_ColorSel (Wall_Color );
>>       OK := Get_OK_Button (Wall_Color);
>>       Cancel := Get_Cancel_Button (Wall_Color);
>>       Help := Get_Help_Button (Wall_Color);
>>       Set_Current_Color( ColorSelection, Current_Color );
>>       Button_CallBack.Connect(OK, "clicked",
>> On_WallFloorOK_Activate'Access);
>>    end Initialize;
>> When  I outcomment the line Button.Connect etc. the package with this
>> function compiles without errors. Once the line is also compiled I get 
>> the
>> error when opened always on the lines 37:0, 38:0 and 39:0 with the
>> descriprion Invalid byte sequence in conversion input. In this case these
>> lines are:
>>       Help : Gtk_Button;
>>    begin
>>       Gtk.Color_Selection_Dialog.Initialize (Wall_Color, -"Wall Color");
>> but when I add multiple lines comments or code for instance on line 20 
>> etc.
>> the line nr's of the error stay the same 37, 38 and 39.
>> I now cannot search further to solve my connect problem.
>
> You should post a complete code.
>
> Also never suppress checks, at least until production code.
>
> P.S. I remotely remember that in some version of GtkAda the color 
> selection
> dialog didn't work, but I might be wrong. You could consider switching to
> Gtk_Color_Selection.
>
> -- 
> Regards,
> Dmitry A. Kazakov
> http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de 





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* Re: Error converting from UTF8 to ISO-8859-1
  2009-07-29 16:46   ` ldries46
@ 2009-07-29 17:20     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
       [not found]       ` <4a717cbf$0$31793$703f8584@news.kpn.nl>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry A. Kazakov @ 2009-07-29 17:20 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:46:08 +0200, ldries46 wrote:

> Herewith I sent the complete code of the .adb file that I have made.

You should post a complete code that can be compiled, linked and executed.
When you design a new Gtk widget, you should have a package interface and
body and a test program that creates the widget.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



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* Re: Error converting from UTF8 to ISO-8859-1
       [not found]       ` <4a717cbf$0$31793$703f8584@news.kpn.nl>
@ 2009-07-30 15:01         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
  2009-07-30 15:08         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry A. Kazakov @ 2009-07-30 15:01 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:58:15 +0200, ldries46 wrote:

> My only interest at this moment is to find the reason for the Error messages 
> and the way to avoid them. The way to activate the buttons is something I 
> try to discover myself because I want to understand what I do

Your code contains errors. Wall_Color_Pkg:
----------------------------------------------------
with Glib; use Glib;
with Gtk; use Gtk;
with Gdk.Types; use Gdk.Types;
with Gtk.Widget; use Gtk.Widget;
with Gtk.Window; use Gtk.Window;
with Gtk.Enums; use Gtk.Enums;
with Gtk.Button; use Gtk.Button;
with Gtk.Color_Selection; use Gtk.Color_Selection;
with Gtk.Handlers; use Gtk.Handlers;
with Gtkada.Handlers; use Gtkada.Handlers;
with Callbacks_Escape; use Callbacks_Escape;
with Escape_Intl; use Escape_Intl;
--with Escape_Pkg.Callbacks; use Escape_Pkg.Callbacks;

package body Wall_Color_Pkg is

   package Button_Callback is new Gtk.Handlers.User_Callback
  -- This is User_Callback ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   (Gtk_Button_Record, Gtk_Window);


   procedure On_WallFloorOK_Activate(Object : access
GTK_Button_Record'Class) is
   begin
      null;
   end;

   procedure Gtk_New (Wall_Color : out Wall_Color_Access) is
   begin
      Wall_Color := new Wall_Color_Record;
      Wall_Color_Pkg.Initialize (Wall_Color);
   end Gtk_New;

   procedure Initialize (Wall_Color : access Wall_Color_Record'Class) is
      pragma Suppress (All_Checks);
      Pixmaps_Dir : constant String := "pixmaps/";
      ColorSelection : Gtk_Color_Selection;
      OK : Gtk_Button;
      Cancel : Gtk_Button;
      Help : Gtk_Button;
   begin
      Gtk.Color_Selection_Dialog.Initialize (Wall_Color, -"Wall Color");
      Set_Border_Width (Wall_Color, 5);
      Set_Title (Wall_Color, -"Wall Color");
      Set_Position (Wall_Color, Win_Pos_None);
      Set_Modal (Wall_Color, False);
      Set_Resizable (Wall_Color, False);
      ColorSelection := Get_ColorSel (Wall_Color );
      OK := Get_OK_Button (Wall_Color);
      Cancel := Get_Cancel_Button (Wall_Color);
      Help := Get_Help_Button (Wall_Color);
      Set_Current_Color( ColorSelection, Current_Color );
      Button_CallBack.Connect(OK, "clicked",
On_WallFloorOK_Activate'Access);
  -- This connects to plain Gtk.Handlers.Callback ^^


   end Initialize;

   procedure Set_Wall_Color( Red : in Guint16; Green : in Guint16; Blue :
in Guint16 ) is
   begin
      Set_Rgb(Current_Color, Red, Green, Blue);
   end;

end Wall_Color_Pkg;
----------------------------------------------------
I have no idea what you are trying to achieve, but using
Gtk.Handlers.User_Callback could go as follows:
----------------------------------------------------
with Gtk.Enums; use Gtk.Enums;
with Gtk.Button; use Gtk.Button;
with Gtk.Color_Selection; use Gtk.Color_Selection;
with Gtk.Handlers; use Gtk.Handlers;
with Escape_Intl; use Escape_Intl;

package body Wall_Color_Pkg is

   package Button_Callback is
      new Gtk.Handlers.User_Callback
          (  Gtk_Button_Record,
             Wall_Color_Access
          );

   procedure On_WallFloorOK_Activate
             (  Button : access GTK_Button_Record'Class;
                Widget : Wall_Color_Access
             )  is
   begin
      null;
   end;

   procedure Gtk_New (Wall_Color : out Wall_Color_Access) is
   begin
      Wall_Color := new Wall_Color_Record;
      Wall_Color_Pkg.Initialize (Wall_Color);
   end Gtk_New;

   procedure Initialize (Wall_Color : access Wall_Color_Record'Class) is
      ColorSelection : Gtk_Color_Selection;
      OK : Gtk_Button;
      Cancel : Gtk_Button;
      Help : Gtk_Button;
   begin
      Gtk.Color_Selection_Dialog.Initialize (Wall_Color, -"Wall Color");
      Set_Border_Width (Wall_Color, 5);
      Set_Title (Wall_Color, -"Wall Color");
      Set_Position (Wall_Color, Win_Pos_None);
      Set_Modal (Wall_Color, False);
      Set_Resizable (Wall_Color, False);
      ColorSelection := Get_ColorSel (Wall_Color );
      OK := Get_OK_Button (Wall_Color);
      Cancel := Get_Cancel_Button (Wall_Color);
      Help := Get_Help_Button (Wall_Color);
      Set_Current_Color( ColorSelection, Current_Color );
      Button_CallBack.Connect
      (  OK,
         "clicked",
         Button_CallBack.To_Marshaller (On_WallFloorOK_Activate'Access),
         Wall_Color.all'Unchecked_Access
      );
   end Initialize;

   procedure Set_Wall_Color( Red : in Guint16; Green : in Guint16; Blue :
in Guint16 ) is
   begin
      Set_Rgb(Current_Color, Red, Green, Blue);
   end;

end Wall_Color_Pkg;
----------------------------------------------------
-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



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* Re: Error converting from UTF8 to ISO-8859-1
       [not found]       ` <4a717cbf$0$31793$703f8584@news.kpn.nl>
  2009-07-30 15:01         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
@ 2009-07-30 15:08         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
  2009-08-06  8:50           ` ldries46
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry A. Kazakov @ 2009-07-30 15:08 UTC (permalink / raw)


P.S.

When using GtkAda under GPS, always include gtkada.gpr into your project
file. In no case you should never ever use the Linker_Options pragma. A
project file could look like this:

with "gtkada.gpr";  -- Note this

project Escape is

   type Development_Type is ("Debug", "Release");
   Development : Development_Type := external ("Development", "Debug");

   type Legacy_Type is ("Ada95", "Ada2005");
   Legacy : Legacy_Type := external ("Legacy", "Ada2005");   

   for Main use ("escape.adb");

   package Binder is
      case Development is
         when "Debug" =>
            for Default_Switches ("ada") use ("-E");
         when "Release" =>
            for Default_Switches ("ada") use ();
      end case;
   end Binder;

   package Builder is
      case Development is
         when "Debug" =>
            for Default_Switches ("ada") use ("-g");
         when "Release" =>
            for Default_Switches ("ada") use ("-s");
      end case;
   end Builder;

   package Compiler is
      case Development is
         when "Debug" =>
            case Legacy is
               when "Ada2005" =>
                  for Default_Switches ("ada") use
                     ("-gnato", "-gnatf", "-g", "-fstack-check",
"-gnat05");
               when "Ada95" =>
                  for Default_Switches ("ada") use
                     ("-gnato", "-gnatf", "-g", "-fstack-check",
"-gnat95");
            end case;
         when "Release" =>
            case Legacy is
               when "Ada2005" =>
                  for Default_Switches ("ada") use
                     ("-gnato", "-gnatf", "-O2", "-gnatn", "-gnat05");
               when "Ada95" =>
                  for Default_Switches ("ada") use
                     ("-gnato", "-gnatf", "-O2", "-gnatn", "-gnat95");
            end case;
      end case;
   end Compiler;

   package Linker is -- Linker switches are here
      case Development is
         when "Debug" =>
            for Default_Switches ("ada") use Gtkada.Linker'Default_Switches
("ada") & "-g" & "-mwindows";
         when "Release" =>
            for Default_Switches ("ada") use Gtkada.Linker'Default_Switches
("ada") & "-O2" & "-mwindows";
      end case;
   end Linker;

end Escape;

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



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* Re: Error converting from UTF8 to ISO-8859-1
  2009-07-30 15:08         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
@ 2009-08-06  8:50           ` ldries46
  2009-08-06 10:03             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: ldries46 @ 2009-08-06  8:50 UTC (permalink / raw)


Thanks for the help. I'm working on my program again.
The question I send first still is not answered because every time I have an 
error I still get the three converting error in the same file but I the file 
is correct is correctly compiled and in the use of it works correctly.

"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> schreef in bericht 
news:i58mu1sn7qag.n2khre66reir$.dlg@40tude.net...
> P.S.
>
> When using GtkAda under GPS, always include gtkada.gpr into your project
> file. In no case you should never ever use the Linker_Options pragma. A
> project file could look like this:
>
> with "gtkada.gpr";  -- Note this
>
> project Escape is
>
>   type Development_Type is ("Debug", "Release");
>   Development : Development_Type := external ("Development", "Debug");
>
>   type Legacy_Type is ("Ada95", "Ada2005");
>   Legacy : Legacy_Type := external ("Legacy", "Ada2005");
>
>   for Main use ("escape.adb");
>
>   package Binder is
>      case Development is
>         when "Debug" =>
>            for Default_Switches ("ada") use ("-E");
>         when "Release" =>
>            for Default_Switches ("ada") use ();
>      end case;
>   end Binder;
>
>   package Builder is
>      case Development is
>         when "Debug" =>
>            for Default_Switches ("ada") use ("-g");
>         when "Release" =>
>            for Default_Switches ("ada") use ("-s");
>      end case;
>   end Builder;
>
>   package Compiler is
>      case Development is
>         when "Debug" =>
>            case Legacy is
>               when "Ada2005" =>
>                  for Default_Switches ("ada") use
>                     ("-gnato", "-gnatf", "-g", "-fstack-check",
> "-gnat05");
>               when "Ada95" =>
>                  for Default_Switches ("ada") use
>                     ("-gnato", "-gnatf", "-g", "-fstack-check",
> "-gnat95");
>            end case;
>         when "Release" =>
>            case Legacy is
>               when "Ada2005" =>
>                  for Default_Switches ("ada") use
>                     ("-gnato", "-gnatf", "-O2", "-gnatn", "-gnat05");
>               when "Ada95" =>
>                  for Default_Switches ("ada") use
>                     ("-gnato", "-gnatf", "-O2", "-gnatn", "-gnat95");
>            end case;
>      end case;
>   end Compiler;
>
>   package Linker is -- Linker switches are here
>      case Development is
>         when "Debug" =>
>            for Default_Switches ("ada") use Gtkada.Linker'Default_Switches
> ("ada") & "-g" & "-mwindows";
>         when "Release" =>
>            for Default_Switches ("ada") use Gtkada.Linker'Default_Switches
> ("ada") & "-O2" & "-mwindows";
>      end case;
>   end Linker;
>
> end Escape;
>
> -- 
> Regards,
> Dmitry A. Kazakov
> http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de 





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* Re: Error converting from UTF8 to ISO-8859-1
  2009-08-06  8:50           ` ldries46
@ 2009-08-06 10:03             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry A. Kazakov @ 2009-08-06 10:03 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:50:11 +0200, ldries46 wrote:

> Thanks for the help. I'm working on my program again.
> The question I send first still is not answered because every time I have an 
> error I still get the three converting error in the same file but I the file 
> is correct is correctly compiled and in the use of it works correctly.

As always, you should a compilable, linkable code that illustrates the
problem. Before doing so you should first reduce it to essentials. In the
process of reducing you will probably find the problem yourself. If the
problem persists when reduced to 2-3 files of 50 lines long, you are ready
to report it.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



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